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What do you bid with this? 1S or 1NT?

Poll: Your bid? (47 member(s) have cast votes)

Your bid?

  1. 1S (25 votes [53.19%])

    Percentage of vote: 53.19%

  2. 1NT (19 votes [40.43%])

    Percentage of vote: 40.43%

  3. 2D (2 votes [4.26%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.26%

  4. I want something else! (1 votes [2.13%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.13%

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#1 User is offline   Rossoneri 

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Posted 2008-August-20, 11:19

Scoring: IMP

Partner opens 1♥, what do you respond?

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Posted 2008-August-20, 11:45

misthought something, this is a 1N bid
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Posted 2008-August-20, 11:51

Difficult between 1♠ and 1NT. 1♠ works out great if partner bids 1NT (and we can get to 2♦. It doesn't work out so well if partner rebids 2♣.

1NT can always get us to 3♦, but our diamond suit is a bit ratty.

Edit: I forgot to give my choice. I think I'll go with 1♠, but I think it's close.
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Posted 2008-August-20, 12:00

1N
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Posted 2008-August-20, 12:25

1NT.

I mean, 1♠ forcing notrump, then pass the 2♦ transfer rebid.
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Posted 2008-August-20, 13:20

1N
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Posted 2008-August-20, 13:32

1N, not close. Even if pard raises 1S, it's not clear that it's worked out better than bidding 1NT.
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Posted 2008-August-20, 15:17

Playing SAYC, I would probably bid 2♦.
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Posted 2008-August-20, 15:28

I spade absolutely. Mo other reasonale bid
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Posted 2008-August-20, 15:46

1h=1s
1nt=3d shows this hand no problem.

1h=1s
2h=pass...no problem......3d rebid here is forcing.

1h=1s
2c=3d is invite not weak.

1h=1nt
?=3d shows long d weakish....
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Posted 2008-August-21, 18:44

1NT. A decent 7 card suit takes precedence over a ratty 4 carder.
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Posted 2008-August-22, 00:28

1N, because I don't have many problems after this bid.

If I respond 1♠ and partner rebids 1N, my methods allow me to get out in 2 diamonds, but if he responds 2 clubs, which is not unlikely in a uncontested auction (someone has to have them!), then I'm screwed.
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Posted 2008-August-22, 01:48

I like 1NT with these diamonds.
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Posted 2008-August-22, 02:29

1♠ and nothing else for me
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Posted 2008-August-22, 03:31

1NT. Your most likely best spot is in Ds. You are more likely to reach it after 1NT than after 1S.
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Posted 2008-August-22, 08:08

Hi All,

Very interresting thread :)

I like the ideia of the ♦ suit taking precedence over the ♠.

And what would happen with a more balanced hand, say something like

xxxx AJx Txx Txx and partner opening 1♦, should we always mention the 4 spades even if they are 2345 ?

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Posted 2008-August-22, 08:22

1♠ always for me.
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Posted 2008-August-28, 02:38

PedroG, on Aug 22 2008, 09:08 AM, said:

Hi All,

Very interresting thread :)

I like the ideia of the ♦ suit taking precedence over the ♠.

And what would happen with a more balanced hand, say something like

xxxx AJx Txx Txx and partner opening 1♦, should we always mention the 4 spades even if they are 2345 ?

Pedro

With this responding hand, the only question is, if you
should pass or not, if you decide to respond 1S is clear
cut.

For that matter the reason, why the peoble choose to
ignore the spade suit is, that the diamond suit is a 7
carder, make it a 6 carder and most would respond 1S.

With kind regards
Marlowe
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Posted 2008-August-28, 03:02

P_Marlowe, on Aug 28 2008, 03:38 AM, said:

PedroG, on Aug 22 2008, 09:08 AM, said:

Hi All,

Very interresting thread :)

I like the ideia of the ♦ suit taking precedence over the ♠.

And what would happen with a more balanced hand, say something like

xxxx AJx Txx Txx and partner opening 1♦, should we always mention the 4 spades even if they are 2345 ?

Pedro

With this responding hand, the only question is, if you
should pass or not, if you decide to respond 1S is clear
cut.

For that matter the reason, why the peoble choose to
ignore the spade suit is, that the diamond suit is a 7
carder, make it a 6 carder and most would respond 1S.

With kind regards
Marlowe

PARD OPENS 1D?


Easy 1s response...no problem yet
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Posted 2008-August-28, 03:04

Why?


Bid on most 5 counts....with an Ace

On this one I got tens ...easy


"xxxx AJx Txx Txx and partner opening 1♦, should we always mention the 4 s"

My main point is..we do not lose event because we bid one spade..we lose event for many other reasons.


btw I bid 1nt on OP.
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