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Posted 2008-August-22, 04:57
I rather be in 6S here and live with the eventual poor result.... at least I save my brain from those complicated process on how to get to a bad Grand
It all makes perfect sense, expressed in dollars and cents.
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Posted 2008-August-22, 11:08
Very interesting discussion.
I thought I would post this email about this thread.
"I'll remind everyone of my previous emails last month from vegas. In one of the toughest MP field in the country (finals of the 3 day LM pairs), bidding to a cold small slam, where the grand would make on non 4-0 trumps, was worth over 90% of the MPs.
On a second board, bidding to a small slam needing trumps not 5-0, where the grand needed 3-2 trumps, was worth 98% of the MPs. Keep those numbers in mind when you're stretching to a grand!"
I thought I would post this email about this thread.
"I'll remind everyone of my previous emails last month from vegas. In one of the toughest MP field in the country (finals of the 3 day LM pairs), bidding to a cold small slam, where the grand would make on non 4-0 trumps, was worth over 90% of the MPs.
On a second board, bidding to a small slam needing trumps not 5-0, where the grand needed 3-2 trumps, was worth 98% of the MPs. Keep those numbers in mind when you're stretching to a grand!"
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Posted 2008-August-22, 11:40
mike777, on Aug 22 2008, 11:08 AM, said:
Very interesting discussion.
I thought I would post this email about this thread.
"I'll remind everyone of my previous emails last month from vegas. In one of the toughest MP field in the country (finals of the 3 day LM pairs), bidding to a cold small slam, where the grand would make on non 4-0 trumps, was worth over 90% of the MPs.
On a second board, bidding to a small slam needing trumps not 5-0, where the grand needed 3-2 trumps, was worth 98% of the MPs. Keep those numbers in mind when you're stretching to a grand!
Alex"
I thought I would post this email about this thread.
"I'll remind everyone of my previous emails last month from vegas. In one of the toughest MP field in the country (finals of the 3 day LM pairs), bidding to a cold small slam, where the grand would make on non 4-0 trumps, was worth over 90% of the MPs.
On a second board, bidding to a small slam needing trumps not 5-0, where the grand needed 3-2 trumps, was worth 98% of the MPs. Keep those numbers in mind when you're stretching to a grand!
Alex"
This is irrelevant. On the actual pair of hands in this thread, at least 95% of the LMP field would be in a slam.
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Posted 2008-August-22, 11:40
miguelm, on Aug 22 2008, 05:57 AM, said:
I rather be in 6S here and live with the eventual poor result.... at least I save my brain from those complicated process on how to get to a bad Grand
You should never want to be in 6♠; Keycard blackwood with no other special agreements lets you count 12 top tricks in NT with no trick one ruffs or bad splits to worry about.
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Posted 2008-August-22, 14:08
ok
no one says this straight out but it seems the assumption is that playing 6nt on my simple auction 2nt=6nt on this OP will not get you 70% let alone some lower but still good score.
Hence these auctions to the grand.
no one says this straight out but it seems the assumption is that playing 6nt on my simple auction 2nt=6nt on this OP will not get you 70% let alone some lower but still good score.
Hence these auctions to the grand.
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Posted 2008-August-25, 08:28
Lobowolf, on Aug 22 2008, 12:40 PM, said:
miguelm, on Aug 22 2008, 05:57 AM, said:
I rather be in 6S here and live with the eventual poor result.... at least I save my brain from those complicated process on how to get to a bad Grand
You should never want to be in 6♠; Keycard blackwood with no other special agreements lets you count 12 top tricks in NT with no trick one ruffs or bad splits to worry about.
I am sure you realized my comment was to enphatize the bad Grand rather than anything else.... but thanks for the reminder
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Posted 2008-August-25, 13:13
Personally i would texas and then key card for spades. After the key card bid i would ask kings (specific or otherwise). This would promise all of the controls and the q of spades. Partner has an easy 7nt bid after that. (he can count 4c, 4d, 1h and 5/6 spades, assuming spades split)
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Posted 2008-August-25, 14:49
easy, on Aug 25 2008, 02:13 PM, said:
Personally i would texas and then key card for spades. After the key card bid i would ask kings (specific or otherwise). This would promise all of the controls and the q of spades. Partner has an easy 7nt bid after that. (he can count 4c, 4d, 1h and 5/6 spades, assuming spades split)
OF course partner may count on 6 spade tricks and less in the minors with another hand and end up with only 12 tricks after he counted on you for 13
.Change a Q of minor to Q of H.
6s....1h.....2 of minor .....4 of minor should be 13 except opps partner only has 5 spades and lied to you.