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is this forcing in sayc ? not covered in acbl booklet

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Posted 2008-August-19, 13:43

partner opens 1 of suit , you change suit at 1 level , partner rebids 1 NT

is 3 of his suit forcing or invitational , or does it depend what suit it was ?

eg 1 1
1NT 3
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Posted 2008-August-19, 15:18

Jumps in previously bid suits are generally invitational; responder bids new minor if he wants to create a forcing auction.
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Posted 2008-August-19, 15:24

Hi,

Inv., but highly depend on systemic agreements.

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Posted 2008-August-19, 21:31

Lobowolf, on Aug 20 2008, 09:18 AM, said:

Jumps in previously bid suits are generally invitational; responder bids new minor if he wants to create a forcing auction.

NMF forcing not mentioned in the SAYC booklet.

I have always assumed it is an add-on.
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Posted 2008-August-19, 21:36

Lobowolf, on Aug 19 2008, 04:18 PM, said:

Jumps in previously bid suits are generally invitational; responder bids new minor if he wants to create a forcing auction.

NMF is not part of SAYC.
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Posted 2008-August-19, 22:28

depends on agreement
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Posted 2008-August-20, 03:32

Good question.

The current edition (2001) of The Official Encyclopedia of Bridge has this to say:

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Jump rebid by responder - These are jump bids short of game by responder at his second turn. The meanings of such bids vary widely. In traditional Standard American all such jump bids were considered forcing, whether or not responder rebids his own suit, supports partner's suit or names a new suit. In the modern style, all such secondary jumps are non-forcing unless they are in a new suit. Some players treat some as forcing and some as non-forcing. Partnership discussion is essential.

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