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♠ Kxx
♥ K10x
♦ AK10xxx
♣ x
You open 1♦, partner answers 1♥.
What is your rebid?
Openers rebid 1D - 1H - ?
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Posted 2008-August-12, 17:19
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Posted 2008-August-12, 17:52
2H here...pick your rationale based on the form of scoring. More likely to get us to game (and the right game) if it's IMPs; more likely to get us to the right partscore at matchpoints.
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Posted 2008-August-12, 18:10
I prefer 2♥, but I'm fairly indifferent between 2♥ and 2♦. This isn't strong enough, in my view, to qualify for the bridge world death hand, so anything else is out.
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Posted 2008-August-12, 18:25
2h . Can live with 2d.
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Posted 2008-August-12, 18:28
I have diamonds. I bid diamonds.
Oh I forgot I was on the forums, gotta bid 2♥.
Oh I forgot I was on the forums, gotta bid 2♥.
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Posted 2008-August-12, 18:35
2♥ for me, but 2♦ is fine too.
Depends on partnership agreements, really.
Depends on partnership agreements, really.
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Posted 2008-August-12, 18:42
I switch back and forth over time but usually bid 2♥. For the most part 2♦ is better if it's a partscore hand, 2♥ is better to reach a close game, and they are about equal on obvious game or slam hands, as long as you have a decent system after the raise.
I prefer them to overcall and just let me support double
I prefer them to overcall and just let me support double
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Posted 2008-August-12, 19:11
2H
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Posted 2008-August-12, 20:42
2♦.
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Posted 2008-August-12, 20:55
2♥ at MPs, 2♦ at IMPs.
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Posted 2008-August-13, 00:41
It seems to me 2♦ is completely normal and wouldn't consider 2♥ with such an easy natural choice, but since them junior champs all bid 2♥ maybe I should adapt. It'll give partner some practice in 4-3 fits
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Posted 2008-August-13, 01:15
The hands were
♠ Kxx
♥ K10x
♦ AK10xxx
♣ x
♠ Axx
♥ AQxxxx
♦ Qx
♣ xx
we got to 4♥ after
1♦ - 1♥
2♦ - 3♥
4♥ - pass
The hands fit perfectly, slam is laydown.
Could it be reached after a 2♥ rebid?
♠ Kxx
♥ K10x
♦ AK10xxx
♣ x
♠ Axx
♥ AQxxxx
♦ Qx
♣ xx
we got to 4♥ after
1♦ - 1♥
2♦ - 3♥
4♥ - pass
The hands fit perfectly, slam is laydown.
Could it be reached after a 2♥ rebid?
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Posted 2008-August-13, 01:39
I'm not an expert but I think sometimes 2D helps more in bidding slams, or even games. (Not so fond of 3 card raises...especially with very good diamonds)
I think this hand is too good for a 2H raise. But 2H closes the auction just as often as 2D, not? 2D also helps partner to upgrade his Diamonds if he has 3 cards or 2 card with an Honour.
If the auction goes 1D-1H-2D-2H, i will be happy to raise to 3H.
In this case,
1D - 1H
2D - 2S
3H / 3S / 4C (dunno whats 3S / 4C in std)....
If there is any way to know about Good Ds + Singleton C, the Slam could be bid.
I think this hand is too good for a 2H raise. But 2H closes the auction just as often as 2D, not? 2D also helps partner to upgrade his Diamonds if he has 3 cards or 2 card with an Honour.
If the auction goes 1D-1H-2D-2H, i will be happy to raise to 3H.
In this case,
1D - 1H
2D - 2S
3H / 3S / 4C (dunno whats 3S / 4C in std)....
If there is any way to know about Good Ds + Singleton C, the Slam could be bid.
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Posted 2008-August-13, 02:01
dicklont, on Aug 13 2008, 07:15 PM, said:
The hands were
♠ Kxx
♥ K10x
♦ AK10xxx
♣ x
♠ Axx
♥ AQxxxx
♦ Qx
♣ xx
we got to 4♥ after
1♦ - 1♥
2♦ - 3♥
4♥ - pass
The hands fit perfectly, slam is laydown.
Could it be reached after a 2♥ rebid?
♠ Kxx
♥ K10x
♦ AK10xxx
♣ x
♠ Axx
♥ AQxxxx
♦ Qx
♣ xx
we got to 4♥ after
1♦ - 1♥
2♦ - 3♥
4♥ - pass
The hands fit perfectly, slam is laydown.
Could it be reached after a 2♥ rebid?
On the actual auction 3♥ seems like a big underbid to me.
You have a six-card suit and 12 prime points. Your ♦ queen has grown in value when partner opened and rebid diamonds.
I would want to force to game with this hand. 3♥ is normally played as invitational.
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Posted 2008-August-13, 02:48
Prefer to rebid 2♦. I'm not a huge fan of unnecessary 3-card raises. Just a style thing I think.
Agree that 3♥ is an underbid with the given hand.
Agree that 3♥ is an underbid with the given hand.
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Posted 2008-August-13, 03:22
A possible auction would be:
1♦ - 1♥
2♦ - 3♥+
3♠* - 4♦!
4NT - 5♠
6♥
+ GF (playing WJS, which is expert standard here)
* Advanced cuebid, or looking for help in ♣ for 3N
! Nothing in ♣, but something in ♦
North can now "see" that his hand is great and that the ♦ give discards, and ask for Key Cards. 2+Q is enough.
On the other hand, I don't see an easy way to uncover the ♦ potential if South simply raises on 3 cards.
1♦ - 1♥
2♦ - 3♥+
3♠* - 4♦!
4NT - 5♠
6♥
+ GF (playing WJS, which is expert standard here)
* Advanced cuebid, or looking for help in ♣ for 3N
! Nothing in ♣, but something in ♦
North can now "see" that his hand is great and that the ♦ give discards, and ask for Key Cards. 2+Q is enough.
On the other hand, I don't see an easy way to uncover the ♦ potential if South simply raises on 3 cards.
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Posted 2008-August-13, 04:00
no, Gerben. I dont think 3H is FG...
a rebid 2H should be around 7-10, 3H is invite, and FG starts by bidding a new suit i think.
a rebid 2H should be around 7-10, 3H is invite, and FG starts by bidding a new suit i think.
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no, Gerben. I dont think 3H is FG...
a rebid 2H should be around 7-10, 3H is invite, and FG starts by bidding a new suit i think.
a rebid 2H should be around 7-10, 3H is invite, and FG starts by bidding a new suit i think.
It isn't in Standard American, but it is in Rieneck standard, which is what the younger German experts play. The reason is that SJS are very uncommon here, and bidding a new suit first when you don't have one complicates things a lot. In our case, 2♥ is around 9 - 11, and 3♥ is GF.