[jillybean]

Dealer: South Vul: All Scoring: IMP

♠ AQ84 ♥ J9 ♦ AKQJT3 ♣ Q

West North East South

 -     -     -     1♦
 Pass  Pass  1♠    ? there goes my plan

[rbforster]

2♦ and pass seem fine. With such a nice hand, I had hoped for 3N but partner's pass pretty much means that's out of the question with our poor round suit stoppers (if he could help stop both ♣/♥ he'd have the 6 points or so to respond).

2♦ will make it harder for the opponents to reach clubs, and you're very likely to make it. Pass might catch LHO with intermediate values and no suit to bid. If he bids 1NT (who needs a minor stopper these days?), you'll happily defend and beat it Vul for 100 or two.

[andy_h]

2D. Removes several bids for my lho, and no way am I passing 1S with such a decent hand.

[inquiry]

I am fond of a 1NT showing balanced 18-19 (!), since i think they can probably make 2 or 3 hearts (at least) or a bunch of clubs, and WEST will probably not have a good sequence lead due to my honors in the off suits and the lack of a direct overcall of 1♦. Thus i "expect" a spade lead, but may go down a good bit of partner doesn't have enough heart and club legnth to keep me from losing too many tricks before i get in.

[neilkaz]

2♦ for me, although to be honest, I don't hate 3♦ even at this vul, but 2♦ it is.

[jillybean]

My first thought was to double and drive to game but I took the dull, mundane option of 2♦
One table got to 3nt after North responded 1♥ however most played in 5♦-1

Scoring: IMP

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West North East South

 -     -     -     1♦
 Pass  Pass  1♠    2♦
 Pass  Pass  Pass  

[jdonn]

Regardless of result or not, your partner's pass on the first round was bad enough, on the second round it was unthinkable. If you had forced me to pass on the first round, I would have splintered 3♠ on the next round.

[jtfanclub]

jdonn, on Aug 4 2008, 03:02 PM, said:

Regardless of result or not, your partner's pass on the first round was bad enough, on the second round it was unthinkable. If you had forced me to pass on the first round, I would have splintered 3♠ on the next round.

I think the floor of a 2♦ rebid is a lot lower than Jilly's actual hand. Given that, I would think that 2♠ is enough.

I'm not sure anything I do is going to convince partner I had 4 card diamond support, though.

[jillybean]

jdonn, on Aug 4 2008, 01:02 PM, said:

Regardless of result or not, your partner's pass on the first round was bad enough, on the second round it was unthinkable. If you had forced me to pass on the first round, I would have splintered 3♠ on the next round.

My pard should bid 1 ♥ or support ♦?

[jdonn]

jillybean2, on Aug 4 2008, 05:34 PM, said:

jdonn, on Aug 4 2008, 01:02 PM, said:

Regardless of result or not, your partner's pass on the first round was bad enough, on the second round it was unthinkable. If you had forced me to pass on the first round, I would have splintered 3♠ on the next round.

My pard should bid 1 ♥ or support ♦?

Bid 1♥ > Support ♦s >>>>> Pass

Don't take the 6+ rule to respond too literally, look for any excuse!

[jillybean]

jdonn, on Aug 4 2008, 03:36 PM, said:

jillybean2, on Aug 4 2008, 05:34 PM, said:

jdonn, on Aug 4 2008, 01:02 PM, said:

Regardless of result or not, your partner's pass on the first round was bad enough, on the second round it was unthinkable. If you had forced me to pass on the first round, I would have splintered 3♠ on the next round.

My pard should bid 1 ♥ or support ♦?

Bid 1♥ > Support ♦s >>>>> Pass

Don't take the 6+ rule to respond too literally, look for any excuse!

If only my partners were so understanding lol

[NickRW]

jillybean2, on Aug 4 2008, 07:24 PM, said:

My first thought was to double and drive to game but I took the dull, mundane option of 2♦
One table got to 3nt after North responded 1♥ however most played in 5♦-1

Well, you must have been above average on the board then, so no too bad.

I'm not sure personally that I would have bid on the first round with that north hand, but I wouldn't have been quiet on the second. Seems like ♣KJ, a half stop in hearts, a singleton in opps suit and four little diamonds just might be quite huge especially as, although the floor for 2♦ is probably not that high, opps seem to be doing nothing, so partner rates to be above min. 2♠ would have been my choice.

[mikeh]

I normally agree with Josh on bidding matters, but here I am not sure.

While I personally would have responded 1♥ (I hate passing.... it makes life way too easy for the opps), I don't think that a B/I player is necessarily 'wrong' passing with a 4 count and 10xxx in the suit we all want him/her to bid. We can easily see the auction getting completely out of hand when the opps start bidding spades.

I am not advocating a pass, but I am not being critical of it either.

As it is, if partner bid 2♦ over 1♠ and rho passed, I agree 100% with Josh on the advisability of a splinter... we know that partner has 6+ diamonds and spade length... the opps bid to a total of 1♠... so we can ruff a number of spades in our hand and game becomes a real possibility... imagine hearing partner bid 4♣ over 3♠!