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Posted 2008-July-31, 12:20

I heard about a new use for 4♣ over a 2N opening when I was in LV.

4♣ = slammish with 5-5 in the majors. If opener isn't interested in slam, opener bids 4♦ and responder goes back to 4♥ (if responder still doesn't want to push on) and opener chooses.

4M by opener is forcing and sets trump.

Similarly, 2N - 3♥ - 3♠ - 4♥ is just a choice of games.

Perhaps there are better continuations, but I think I like the concept.

Over 1N, it seems to me you can telescope all invitational or better major 5-5's into 3♣ in a similar fashion.
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Posted 2008-July-31, 12:24

I've been using 4♣ as a game force with 5-5 in the minors for a while; doesn't come up much though. Using fairly standard methods over 2NT it is quite easy to show major suits (stayman and then smolen, transfer to hearts and then 3♠, transfer to spades and then 4♥, etc) but rather annoying to show minor suits (virtually all of which are pushed into 2NT-3♠). This method seems to make things quite a bit easier on hands that are a substantially bigger problem than 5-5 majors hands.
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Posted 2008-July-31, 12:39

On a related note, I sometimes wonder if Texas is not a waste here. If Opener is free to make super-acceptances with three-card fits (makes sense to me), then Texas is redundant, to a degree. Even without supers, it seems somewhat redundant. Might make sense to play Brozel here.

4♣ = ♣+♥, slammish
4♦ = ♦+♥, slammish
4♥ = ♥+♠, slammish
4♠ = ♠+minor, slammish
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Posted 2008-July-31, 13:08

We play 4C is GF with both majors, stole it from the bridgematters site I think. Or maybe we stole it from inquiry who stole it from bridgematters.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2008-July-31, 20:35

My partner and I play 4C as GF with both majors (not necessarily slam interest) and opener 'superaccepts' with 4M but bids 4D if he's a min/not interested but wants to play in 4M. 4NT over 4C would be to play.

We also play 2NT-3H; 3S-4H as a self suited slam try (better than a mild via the non-texas route)
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Posted 2008-August-01, 10:28

han, on Jul 31 2008, 02:08 PM, said:

We play 4C is GF with both majors, stole it from the bridgematters site I think. Or maybe we stole it from inquiry who stole it from bridgematters.

I steal 80% of what I play from Bridgematters.... thanks glen.
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