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#1 User is offline   Apollo81 

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Posted 2008-July-25, 10:35

♠AQJ
♥JT932
♦3
♣AT32

all white MPs

1♥-(x)-2♦-(p)-?

No special agreements here.
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Posted 2008-July-25, 10:47

As long as 2♦ is NF, I think it's rather clear to pass. If it's somehow forcing, this is probably an ugly 2♥.
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Posted 2008-July-25, 11:07

2h cue..showing stopper I hope but in any case cue
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Posted 2008-July-25, 11:35

mike777, on Jul 25 2008, 12:07 PM, said:

2h cue..showing stopper I hope but in any case cue

You are the 1H bidder mike, and its now your call.
Is the word "pass" not in your vocabulary?
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Posted 2008-July-25, 11:44

2♥.
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Posted 2008-July-25, 12:37

Pass

I don't see this as a problem.
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Posted 2008-July-25, 16:06

Presuming 2♦ is NF Constructive, seems a clear pass.

If you play 2♦ as F1, then I bid 2♥.

Both actions seem clear to me.
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Posted 2008-July-26, 05:00

agree with echognome
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Posted 2008-July-26, 10:22

Opps had this auction and there was a long hesitation before 2♦. Opener bid 2NT; responder bid 4♥. If it wasn't a club game I'd have called the director, maybe I should have anyway.
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Posted 2008-July-26, 10:41

Apollo81, on Jul 26 2008, 11:22 AM, said:

Opps had this auction and there was a long hesitation before 2♦. Opener bid 2NT; responder bid 4♥. If it wasn't a club game I'd have called the director, maybe I should have anyway.

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Posted 2008-July-27, 00:44

Agree 100% with Gnome.
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Posted 2008-July-27, 08:41

Apollo81, on Jul 26 2008, 09:22 AM, said:

Opps had this auction and there was a long hesitation before 2♦.  Opener bid 2NT; responder bid 4♥.  If it wasn't a club game I'd have called the director, maybe I should have anyway.

I don't understand this, I was playing at the club once when an op said "oh no we wont call the director, its Christmas" :) Why are the rules different in club games, certain times of the year games, tournaments?

I think a polite 'this is a noticable hesistation, I reserve the right to call the director'
is perfect here. If the players are new and have had a brain freeze, nothing more needs to be said, if its UI youve protected yourself.
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Posted 2008-July-27, 09:44

I agree with not calling at the club, you can't change people there and you only make yourself needlessly unpopular to try, plus the quality of directing is generally so bad that calling is a total crapshoot. Against those people you probably win in the end anyway.
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Posted 2008-July-30, 17:40

jdonn, on Jul 27 2008, 10:44 AM, said:

I agree with not calling at the club, you can't change people there and you only make yourself needlessly unpopular to try, plus the quality of directing is generally so bad that calling is a total crapshoot. Against those people you probably win in the end anyway.

I agree with JDonn, that calling the Direcotor at some clubs, won't make you popuar. Furthermore, even if opponents are guilty of an infraction and it damaged you, redress is still uncertain. Nevertheless, Jillybean is right that you should still call the director. In the long term, Bridge is more fun and more challenging if you play by the rules. In clubs, where some members frown on director-calls, there is often an unpleasant atmosphere of frustration and backbiting :P Admittedly, some players do seem to thrive in such conditions :) If you don't call the director, then you should refrain from later complaint especially if that complaint involves publishing your version of events on the web.
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