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Pressure decision.

Poll: what to bid? (23 member(s) have cast votes)

what to bid?

  1. double (8 votes [34.78%])

    Percentage of vote: 34.78%

  2. 5 hearts (2 votes [8.70%])

    Percentage of vote: 8.70%

  3. 5 spades (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  4. 6 clubs (1 votes [4.35%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.35%

  5. 6 diamonds (4 votes [17.39%])

    Percentage of vote: 17.39%

  6. other (8 votes [34.78%])

    Percentage of vote: 34.78%

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#1 User is offline   Fluffy 

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Posted 2008-July-17, 15:29

Scoring: MP

W - N - E - S
1♦-X-5♦-??

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Posted 2008-July-17, 16:12

I'm surprised to see 100% votes for 6♦ here, to put it mildly. (Yes, only two votes, but still.)

Parnter might easily have something like Qxxx AJx x ATxxx.

I'm not sure if I'd double or bid here, but I'm certain that IF I bid, 6♦ wouldn't be my choise. I'd rather try 5NT - pick a slam.
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Posted 2008-July-17, 16:15

I would like to think that I didn't even consider 5NT because my partner at the time would have no clue of what it would mean, but I am sorry, it should be in the poll.
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Posted 2008-July-17, 16:21

skaeran, on Jul 17 2008, 05:12 PM, said:

Parnter might easily have something like Qxxx AJx x ATxxx.

We're not down yet!

I have no idea how my partners would interpret 5NT. I don't want to find out. :unsure:
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Posted 2008-July-17, 16:28

I would double. I do play it as responsive, although at these dizzying heights there's a good chance I'll be defending.
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Posted 2008-July-17, 17:53

5N is clear with any expert partner. With a non-expert, this is a real problem, but I would go with 6♦ because I would expect at least 1 4=4 fit and he is possibly 4=4=2=3 or the like, such that 5N will/should fetch the same call.

Double may be the big winner but I like slam chances too much... and anyone who thinks that partner is pulling 5♦ is dreaming.. we're the one with the diamond void... (ok, he could be short as well, but I'm betting he has more diamonds than we do, and thus probably too many to pull). I say this as someone who likes to note negative and responsive doubles through 7♠
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Posted 2008-July-17, 19:06

mikeh, on Jul 17 2008, 06:53 PM, said:

5N is clear with any expert partner.

Curious. What would you bid with a slam-going 3316? 6♣? Or 5NT?

How about 4315?

(Edit, yes, I know that's not enough info by itself...but in general).
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Posted 2008-July-18, 02:57

I thought 5nt wtp

Until I saw 5nt was not an option.
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Posted 2008-July-18, 03:34

jtfanclub, on Jul 18 2008, 02:06 AM, said:

mikeh, on Jul 17 2008, 06:53 PM, said:

5N is clear with any expert partner.

Curious. What would you bid with a slam-going 3316? 6♣? Or 5NT?

How about 4315?

(Edit, yes, I know that's not enough info by itself...but in general).

3316 I would bid 6C if I'm strong enough to bid a slam.

4315 sounds more like a double.
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Posted 2008-July-18, 03:44

dbl, second choice 6♣, 3rd choice 5NT, 4th choice monkey.
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Posted 2008-July-18, 04:26

I am pretty sure my father would take 5NT as 2 places to play: clubs and another.
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Posted 2008-July-18, 07:41

5N for me as well.

6D is horrid (imo), as you preclude 6C as a valid contract.
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Posted 2008-July-19, 19:14

I bid 6♦ wich had the downside to let LHO double to discourage partenr bidding any further, well, he did anyway, but oppponents weren't very good.

partner had Kxxx, J10xx, Ax, Axx, hearts 4-1 meant no posibility to make any contract you bid.
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Posted 2008-July-21, 09:34

mikeh, on Jul 17 2008, 06:53 PM, said:

I say this as someone who likes to note negative and responsive doubles through 7♠

This treatment is poor, imo. Roger and I play them through 7♥, which I think is clearly superior.
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Posted 2008-July-21, 17:20

kfay, on Jul 21 2008, 10:34 AM, said:

mikeh, on Jul 17 2008, 06:53 PM, said:

I say this as someone who likes to note negative and responsive doubles through 7♠

This treatment is poor, imo. Roger and I play them through 7♥, which I think is clearly superior.

It beats my neg/responsive doubles to 7NT though.
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Posted 2008-July-21, 17:57

5NT. As long as it is followed by a natural bid it is fine. If your P thinks this is to play bid it anyway so they'll remember scrambling NTs (or 5NT pick a slam) the next time.
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