[matmat]

against the same pair...

Scoring: XIMP

west deals and passes. opps stay quiet. Auction:

1♠ - 2♥
3♦ - 3♥
4♦ - 4♥
6♥

our result wasn't so great. 6♥ is obviously a bad call.
(i) how would your auction have gone
(a) assuming a standardish 2/1 variant,
(b ) any methods you like?
(ii) what call do you make over 4♥, if any? (instead of 6♥)

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[fromageGB]

My 2/1 is pretty standard, and I expect a 2/1 to be a 13 count. While south is near, the shortage in partner's suit degrades it, so I would treat it as an invitational six card heart hand.
1♠ 1NT 2♦ (so you know opener is limited to 16 HCP) 3♥.
As opener I would express the shape by 4♦.
As south, again 4♥, prepared to convert 4♠ to 5♦.
As north I would pass 4♥.

On the given sequence, I would assume a stronger south hand so as north on hearing 4♥ I would think we are in slam zone. I can't pass. Nevertheless the hand does not look that good. I bid 5♥ to try to draw partner's attention to the quality of his trumps.

[Codo]

I guess to downgrade this hand to "invitational with hearts" will be a quite unique POV.
I try 1 Spade 2 Heart 3 Diamond 3 Heart 4 Diamond 4 Heart 5 Diamond.
This had shown a 6-6 hand for sure.
Now pd should downgrade to the horrible missfit and pass.

[andy_h]

1S-2H; 3D-3H; 4D-4H; Pass, I think

[jtfanclub]

The way I play it, this is 1♠-2♥-3♦-4♥, showing a minimum or subminimum GF with no interest in playing anywhere other than hearts.

[P_Marlowe]

#1 replace 6H with 5D, and responder may or may
not raise 5D to 6D.
#2 5D.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[rbforster]

I think I like this start a little better in 2/1 -

1♠-2♥
3♦-3♥
3♠-4♥
P

or maybe

...
3♠-3N
4♦-5♦
P

Over 3♠ I can hope to get partner to raise spades with two or bid NT with a club stopper (and of course over 3N I'm bidding 4♦ but that doesn't always happen). When he instead bids 4♥, at least I know that he's got 7 of them (or 6 very good ones) and can pass, since unlike the original auction here he's shown hearts 3 times instead of twice.

[FrancesHinden]

North has an obvious pass of 4H.

[nige1]

matmat, on Jul 1 2008, 03:25 AM, said:

Dealer: East Vul: Neither Scoring: XIMP

♠ AQT984 ♥ 6 ♦ AK7652 ♣   ♠   ♥ KQ98732 ♦ QT ♣ AJ94

against the same pair... west deals and passes. opps stay quiet. Auction: 1♠ - 2♥ 3♦ - 3♥ 4♦ - 4♥ 6♥ our result wasn't so great. 6♥ is obviously a bad call. (i) how would your auction have gone     (a) assuming a standardish 2/1 variant,     (b ) any  methods you like? (ii) what call do you make over 4♥, if any? (instead of 6♥)

IMO South was impeccable and North a tiny bid optimistic but if South had held
♠2 ♥ KQJ9872 ♦ QT ♣ A92
then MatMat and partner would have been congratulating each other on their judgement
And the deal probably would not have featured here

[joker_gib]

FrancesHinden, on Jul 4 2008, 12:29 PM, said:

North has an obvious pass of 4H.

Yes, I would have passed too.