Two very good players (one world-class, one wannabe expert), but occassional partnership, playing 2/1 with a variety of common add-ons have this auction:
1D p 1H p
4C p 5C
1) What is 5C?
2) Would it make a difference if the bid was made by one or the other?
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What is 5C? 1D p 1H p; 4C p 5C
#2
Posted 2008-June-24, 03:59
A cuebid showing the ace, as well as denying a first or second round control in diamonds or spades. And since it bypasses 4H it must show a pretty good hand, so I'd expect good trumps.
Responder could have bid 4D as "last train".
I don't understand your second question. Are you asking if 5C would have a different meaning depending on whether the stronger or weaker player bids it? If so, no.
Responder could have bid 4D as "last train".
I don't understand your second question. Are you asking if 5C would have a different meaning depending on whether the stronger or weaker player bids it? If so, no.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
- hrothgar
- hrothgar
#3
Posted 2008-June-24, 04:35
A cue bid, as described by Han.
An uncommon but sensible add-on is to use it as Inclusion Keycard. That is, it asks for keycards, but says that a void should be treated as an ace. With this arrangement, you can do without those horrible space-consuming jump responses to 4NT, and you get to play a convention whose acronym is pronounced "ick".
An uncommon but sensible add-on is to use it as Inclusion Keycard. That is, it asks for keycards, but says that a void should be treated as an ace. With this arrangement, you can do without those horrible space-consuming jump responses to 4NT, and you get to play a convention whose acronym is pronounced "ick".
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
#4
Posted 2008-June-24, 08:40
I like inclusion keycards. The name I mean.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
- hrothgar
- hrothgar
#5
Posted 2008-June-24, 10:26
han, on Jun 24 2008, 06:40 AM, said:
I like inclusion keycards. The name I mean.
I don't like inclusive conventions. I think conventions should be heavily secured and you are forced to show credentials at the door.
I think its very unfair to those that have paid to attend.
"Phil" on BBO
#6
Posted 2008-June-24, 10:59
gnasher, on Jun 24 2008, 05:35 AM, said:
A cue bid, as described by Han.
An uncommon but sensible add-on is to use it as Inclusion Keycard. That is, it asks for keycards, but says that a void should be treated as an ace. With this arrangement, you can do without those horrible space-consuming jump responses to 4NT, and you get to play a convention whose acronym is pronounced "ick".
An uncommon but sensible add-on is to use it as Inclusion Keycard. That is, it asks for keycards, but says that a void should be treated as an ace. With this arrangement, you can do without those horrible space-consuming jump responses to 4NT, and you get to play a convention whose acronym is pronounced "ick".
Cunning idea Gnasher!
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