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Holding the following hand How would you bid this?

#1 User is offline   cranebill 

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Posted 2008-June-15, 15:08

8 spades

10, 6 , 5 Hearts

9, 6 Diamonds

A, Q, 7, 6, 5, 3, 2 Clubs

Pass - Partner 1 NT - 2 Diamonds alerted as Capp - Your bid?
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Posted 2008-June-15, 15:11

Lebensohl and pass partner's 3♣.

View Postwyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.


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Besides playing for fun, most people also like to play bridge to win


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Posted 2008-June-15, 15:16

can you assume you have not agreed any form of Lebensohl, please

I actually bid a direct 5 clubs, which was doubled by LHO and then redoubled by my partner

no one was vulnerable if that makes a difference to your opinion
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Posted 2008-June-15, 15:18

Agree with 2NT lebensohl and passing out 3C.

Btw, you can format your hand as

8
1065
96
AQ76532

or 8 1065 96 AQ76532 and most people would understand.

If lebensohl was not agreed, then I'll opt for a pass then come back with 3C if I'm able to.
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Posted 2008-June-15, 15:22

I'm just going to bid 3NT. It might make, and if it doesn't, it might be a good sacrifice.

By the way, you can format your questions like this:

♠8 ♥T65 ♦96 ♣AQ76532

(P) - 1NT - (2♦) - ?

using the toolbars above (or typing manually).
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Posted 2008-June-15, 15:38

Agree on lebensohl.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2008-June-15, 19:55

If you are not playing Lebensohl then 3 NT seems a better option than 5♣.If playing for money; 3NT even if you are playing Lebensohl.
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Posted 2008-June-15, 20:09

3NT makes more sense than 5♣. And I'd bid it only if I REALLY need the points. I'd go for 3♣ (which allows pd to bid 3NT, though I don't think (s)he'll do it).

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Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.


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Posted 2008-June-17, 13:36

Bid 3 clubs. Partner can pass this or with a fit bid 3N

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Posted 2008-June-17, 13:41

Do you guys realize 3♣ is game forcing, whether or not you play lebensohl?
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Posted 2008-June-17, 13:55

If this is IMPs I'm bidding 3NT wtp? Give partner the ♣K and we make this.

If it's MPs and I'm not playing Lebensohl I'll bid 2NT wtp :P ? If partner accepts I'm happy, if he doesn't maybe it will work out but I wish we were playing 3♣.
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Posted 2008-June-17, 13:56

rogerclee, on Jun 17 2008, 02:41 PM, said:

Do you guys realize 3♣ is game forcing, whether or not you play lebensohl?

No didn't realize this. However, I don't think game forcing is a good idea here. Is there some way around it?

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Posted 2008-June-17, 13:59

bill1157, on Jun 17 2008, 12:56 PM, said:

rogerclee, on Jun 17 2008, 02:41 PM, said:

Do you guys realize 3♣ is game forcing, whether or not you play lebensohl?

No didn't realize this. However, I don't think game forcing is a good idea here. Is there some way around it?

Bill

I think it is fairly standard these days to play that 2NT here is an artificial puppet to 3♣ (lebensohl), showing many different hand types, so you can sign off in clubs. Inviting in clubs is too tough, and I do not know of anyone who has the ability to invite in a specific suit after this auction. I suppose you could play 3♣ here is invitational and give up all chances of slamming in clubs, but it is definitely nonstandard.
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