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Poll: What to bid now (31 member(s) have cast votes)

What to bid now

  1. 4C (1 votes [3.23%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.23%

  2. 4D (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  3. 4H (3 votes [9.68%])

    Percentage of vote: 9.68%

  4. 4S (4 votes [12.90%])

    Percentage of vote: 12.90%

  5. 4NT (4 votes [12.90%])

    Percentage of vote: 12.90%

  6. 5H (2 votes [6.45%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.45%

  7. 6H (12 votes [38.71%])

    Percentage of vote: 38.71%

  8. 7H (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  9. Abstain (hate the 2D bid) (5 votes [16.13%])

    Percentage of vote: 16.13%

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#1 User is offline   manudude03 

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Posted 2008-June-10, 09:32

Scoring: MP

1♥-(P)-2♦-(2♠)
3NT-(P)-???


Playing an Acol system, 4cM, 12-14 NT, 3 weak 2s. Sitting north on this hand, i bid 2♦ planning to show a delayed game raise. 2♠ on the left and partner to my surprise bid 3NT. How do we bid this now?

Bonus question: I listed 4H as one of the options, what would you take it as?
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Posted 2008-June-10, 09:45

I would just bid 6H
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Posted 2008-June-10, 09:48

Simplicity works. 6♥ gets a second vote.
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Posted 2008-June-10, 09:49

6♥. ACOL, right? Bid what you think you can make! :)
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Posted 2008-June-10, 09:53

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Posted 2008-June-10, 10:06

Abstain. I would have made some sort of GF ♥ raise on the previous round.
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Posted 2008-June-10, 10:10

TylerE, on Jun 10 2008, 08:06 AM, said:

Abstain. I would have made some sort of GF ♥ raise on the previous round.

Standard ACOL doesn't have a forcing raise, I thought.
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Posted 2008-June-10, 10:13

manudude03, on Jun 10 2008, 10:32 AM, said:

Scoring: MP

1♥-(P)-2♦-(2♠)
3NT-(P)-???


Playing an Acol system, 4cM, 12-14 NT, 3 weak 2s. Sitting north on this hand, i bid 2♦ planning to show a delayed game raise. 2♠ on the left and partner to my surprise bid 3NT. How do we bid this now?

Bonus question: I listed 4H as one of the options, what would you take it as?

4NT. I'd feel silly being at 6♥ down 2 aces.

If partner doesn't take it as BW, well, I guess I'll apologize later.
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Posted 2008-June-10, 10:48

4NT looks awfully quantitative to me.
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Posted 2008-June-10, 11:51

TylerE, on Jun 10 2008, 11:48 AM, said:

4NT looks awfully quantitative to me.

Me too, 6♥.
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Posted 2008-June-10, 12:25

TylerE, on Jun 10 2008, 11:48 AM, said:

4NT looks awfully quantitative to me.

I suppose I could bid 4♠ instead, but there are worse things than bidding 4NT and partner passing it. The way I'm used to playing Quant, partner passes with a poor hand and responds with aces with a good hand.

We look to have fewer than 32HCP between us, and I just can't take the chance with 6♥, even with a 10 card fit.
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Posted 2008-June-10, 12:36

4NT looks 100% quant to me. 4♣ if its gerber. If not, either 4♠ or 6♥. Really would be kind of silly to be off 2 aces which is very plausible after partner shows spade values. However, getting passed (very likely) in 4NT when 6♥ makes is even more silly.
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Posted 2008-June-10, 13:10

Take a blast at 6♥.

I don't hate the 2♦ bid, but I would have splintered.

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Posted 2008-June-10, 13:12

NickRW, on Jun 10 2008, 02:10 PM, said:

Take a blast at 6♥.

I don't hate the 2♦ bid, but I would have splintered.

Nick

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Posted 2008-June-10, 13:51

Fewer than 32 HCP, I'd just bid 4H.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2008-June-10, 14:57

inquiry, on Jun 10 2008, 07:12 PM, said:

NickRW, on Jun 10 2008, 02:10 PM, said:

Take a blast at 6♥.

I don't hate the 2♦ bid, but I would have splintered.

Nick

With regards to the splinter with a singleton ACE, all i can say is... well, the first word of the title of this thread says it all.

Er, thanks :)

I'm not sure I exactly like 3S with a singleton ace either, but we'd be in no worse shape than having to blast 6H now.
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Posted 2008-June-10, 16:30

This is so obviously a Gerber sequence. :) :o
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Posted 2008-June-11, 10:05

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Posted 2008-June-11, 10:11

han, on Jun 10 2008, 08:51 PM, said:

Fewer than 32 HCP, I'd just bid 4H.

It was Acol, Han. That means you need two points less.
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Posted 2008-June-11, 13:49

4NT. Cannot be quantitative as the 3NT bid does not have a definite point range. Hate the 2D bid too, but I can't vote twice.

Many moons ago I played 5 card major acol, but I always had a game forcing trump support bid. 2NT natural is not really needed.
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