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we have the king suit again!

#1 User is offline   gwnn 

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Posted 2008-June-12, 13:33

76532
QJ2
AK
JT7

imps favorable, RHO opens 1♣.

for those of you who have not gotten nausea from the thought of 1♠, let me ask you, what would you modify in your hand (and please don't modify spades too much) to make this a 1♠ call?
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Posted 2008-June-12, 13:38

I basically play that I need either a good suit OR a good hand (or both) to overcall. This hand is neither. If you want to keep me with the bad suit, you've got to give me a better (at least a clear opening) hand.

So give me 76532 AQ2 AK JT7 and I will overcall 1♠.
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Posted 2008-June-12, 13:38

Move the K♦ to ♠. I'm not crazy about this hand..looks like I want to defend.
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Posted 2008-June-12, 13:42

1♠ for me.
I want to get in there now.
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Posted 2008-June-12, 13:44

I want to double.
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Posted 2008-June-12, 13:47

1♠. About a minimum for me with this suit.
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Posted 2008-June-12, 15:44

1S for me, not a minimum.
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Posted 2008-June-12, 16:17

I agree with gnome mostly, but I'm not as picky about the hand quality as he is.
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Posted 2008-June-12, 16:42

This hand = ick. Therefore I pass. I expect partner to lead my suit holding Kx. If I have good general values, this may not be such a bad thing with a poor suit quality.

Poor hand & poor suit = pass for me.
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Posted 2008-June-12, 16:50

1♠ WTP.
That's impossible. No one can give more than one hundred percent. By definition that is the most anyone can give.
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Posted 2008-June-13, 00:43

You found the borderline where I would overcall 1 Spade to 1 Diamond.
To overcall 1 Spade over 1 Club I need even a little less.
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Posted 2008-June-13, 01:58

1♠
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Posted 2008-June-13, 02:34

1S also.
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Posted 2008-June-13, 06:24

1S, agree it's not a minimum. We have the boss suit, let's get the competitive auction started whilst we can! Coming back in later may be risky, or our possible spade fit may be lost forever. When's the last time you were doubled at the 1lvl at favourable?
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Posted 2008-June-13, 06:27

1S, not a minimum.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2008-June-13, 09:40

This is on the border for me, so I might bid or pass depending on mood. I would certainly overcall 1♠ against most opponents, maybe pass against really good players.
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Posted 2008-June-13, 10:18

I'd pass. The minimum change would be to change it to (5422) somehow.
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Posted 2008-June-13, 10:44

1 spade bidders must be really thrilled when partner leads against 3NT from Kx of spades.

This hand has some defensive potential, and spades are ,hmm well enough bad to give me nausea. I pass for now and await development
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Posted 2008-June-13, 11:04

dcvetkov, on Jun 13 2008, 06:44 PM, said:

1 spade bidders must be really thrilled when partner leads against 3NT from Kx of spades.

This hand has some defensive potential, and spades are ,hmm well enough bad to give me nausea. I pass for now and await development

What would you like partner to lead against 3NT?
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Posted 2008-June-13, 11:15

dcvetkov, on Jun 14 2008, 02:44 AM, said:

1 spade bidders must be really thrilled when partner leads against 3NT from Kx of spades.

And the passers wonder why they are losing 6imps on this board
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