Run of the Mill Suit Combination Is there more here than meets the eye?
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Posted 2008-May-25, 22:36
#3
Posted 2008-May-26, 01:31
-P.J. Painter.
#4 Guest_Jlall_*
Posted 2008-May-26, 08:10
#5
Posted 2008-May-26, 08:30
Josh hit the nail on the head as to the point and the reasons.
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Posted 2008-May-26, 09:04
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Posted 2008-May-26, 10:49
neilkaz, on May 26 2008, 10:04 AM, said:
Unless he is KJT-3-4-3 or KJT9-3-4-3 minus 1. I think this line is clearly worse vs almost all players, but it's good to think of.
#9 Guest_Jlall_*
Posted 2008-May-26, 10:52
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Posted 2008-May-26, 10:54
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Posted 2008-May-26, 12:38
whereagles, on May 26 2008, 11:54 AM, said:
This is the reason I posted this here in beginner/intermediate - again, I probably should have simply posted the suit combination so as not to confuse.
The only point I was trying to shed light on was as declarer viewing the problem from the defender's perspective, understanding that defenders do not play perfectly, and that in this holding by leading a low spade at trick 2 you can induce an error at virtually no cost. (That turns out to be wrong if the endplay is available, so that's why a full hand wasn't such a good idea.)
#12
Posted 2008-May-26, 14:07
-P.J. Painter.
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Posted 2008-May-27, 09:04
#14
Posted 2008-May-27, 11:47
Rob F, on May 27 2008, 03:04 PM, said:
Yes.
Given what this forum is, this problem may have been better presented as a straight card combo. How do you play AQxx oppposite xxx for 2 tricks and not 2 losers.
Someone who has never been presented with the problem before might initially think, "Hmm, isn't this a straight finesse, 50/50 chance - how can I do any better?"
The next observation would be, "How about cash the ace and play low to the queen? That catches the K single on the right as well and still offers the same chance as the finesse"
Then you notice that leading low to the dummy and simply ducking has the same chance to drop the K single.
Then you notice that leading low off the table instead of doing it from hand puts RHO holding Kx in a seemingly difficult position - especially if done early in the hand before defenders have had much of chance to figure out what is going on.
Nick
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Posted 2008-May-27, 16:58
NickRW, on May 27 2008, 12:47 PM, said:
Rob F, on May 27 2008, 03:04 PM, said:
Yes.
Given what this forum is, this problem may have been better presented as a straight card combo. How do you play AQxx oppposite xxx for 2 tricks and not 2 losers.
Someone who has never been presented with the problem before might initially think, "Hmm, isn't this a straight finesse, 50/50 chance - how can I do any better?"
The next observation would be, "How about cash the ace and play low to the queen? That catches the K single on the right as well and still offers the same chance as the finesse"
Then you notice that leading low to the dummy and simply ducking has the same chance to drop the K single.
Then you notice that leading low off the table instead of doing it from hand puts RHO holding Kx in a seemingly difficult position - especially if done early in the hand before defenders have had much of chance to figure out what is going on.
Nick
Exactly, Nick. I screwed up by using an entire hand.
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Posted 2008-May-27, 19:21
Winstonm, on May 27 2008, 10:58 PM, said:
I don't think you screwed up at all. Nobody had presented that problem to me before. I got three parts through the thought process - and had to be told about the last - so I'm happy you did what you did.
Nick

Help

You have 11 top tricks and will therefore need 2 tricks from spades...but also need to avoid losing 2 spades.
Over to you - how do you tackel the spade suit?
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