[han]

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AKJxxxxx
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Red against white, IMPs, RHO opens 3H. Your call?

[the hog]

Pass. Don't pre empt a pre empt. I am worried that pd will bid 6 if I bid 5D.

[TylerE]

Pass. Would bid 3♦ over 2X

[rogerclee]

I guess I will bid 3NT, but I'm not thrilled about it.

[effervesce]

rogerclee, on May 20 2008, 12:15 AM, said:

I guess I will bid 3NT, but I'm not thrilled about it.

What??! Not thrilled? You have 7-8 playing tricks! What more could partner expect for a 3NT bid...

[Echognome]

I thought about this hand way too long. I'm passing for now. I'm prepared to compete later and am glad I discussed with my p's that we're not playing FNJs here even if I pass.

[rogerclee]

effervesce, on May 19 2008, 10:25 PM, said:

rogerclee, on May 20 2008, 12:15 AM, said:

I guess I will bid 3NT, but I'm not thrilled about it.

What??! Not thrilled? You have 7-8 playing tricks! What more could partner expect for a 3NT bid...

This bid has a huge number of ways to lose.

1) Partner doesn't have a heart stopper.
2) Partner has a good hand and drives to slam.
3) A combination of both of the above.
4) Diamonds don't run.

So I think pass might be much better. I'm sort of going back and forth between the two, even though I had actually thought about it for awhile before making my first post.

Unless you were being sarcastic. Then I lose.

[jdonn]

I thought you were posting this one as a joke han

[rbforster]

What are the relative strength differences here between:

4♦
5♦
X...♦

If I could bid 5♦ and partner wouldn't hang me without a great hand, I think I would. Partner and/or LHO have good hands yet, so I worry that passing might get us shut out without telling partner anything useful. After

(3♥) - P(you) - (4♥) - P
(P) -?

are the passers bidding 5♦? It shouldn't be down more than 4, but 4 is too many even when they have slam.

[Echognome]

Rob F, on May 19 2008, 09:58 PM, said:

What are the relative strength differences here between:

4♦
5♦
X...♦

If I could bid 5♦ and partner wouldn't hang me without a great hand, I think I would.  Partner and/or LHO have good hands yet, so I worry that passing might get us shut out without telling partner anything useful.  After

(3♥) - P(you) - (4♥) - P
(P) -?

are the passers bidding 5♦?  It shouldn't be down more than 4, but 4 is too many even when they have slam.

I play the 4♦ is non-leaping michael's so that is out for me. Not that I don't think a natural call might not work out well, it just seems that I can try to stab 3NT on those hands.

Note to self: Avoid use of triple negatives.

[gnasher]

Echognome, on May 20 2008, 07:07 AM, said:

I play the 4♦ is non-leaping michael's

[..]

Note to self: Avoid use of triple negatives.

Would you consider eliminating the spurious apostrophes too?

[Echognome]

gnasher, on May 19 2008, 10:32 PM, said:

Echognome, on May 20 2008, 07:07 AM, said:

I play the 4♦ is non-leaping michael's

[..]

Note to self: Avoid use of triple negatives.

Would you consider eliminating the spurious apostrophes too?

I pre'fer work'ing on one foi'ble at a time, thank you ve'ry m'uch!

[effervesce]

rogerclee, on May 20 2008, 12:37 AM, said:

effervesce, on May 19 2008, 10:25 PM, said:

rogerclee, on May 20 2008, 12:15 AM, said:

I guess I will bid 3NT, but I'm not thrilled about it.

What??! Not thrilled? You have 7-8 playing tricks! What more could partner expect for a 3NT bid...

This bid has a huge number of ways to lose.

1) Partner doesn't have a heart stopper.
2) Partner has a good hand and drives to slam.
3) A combination of both of the above.
4) Diamonds don't run.

So I think pass might be much better. I'm sort of going back and forth between the two, even though I had actually thought about it for awhile before making my first post.

Unless you were being sarcastic. Then I lose.

Perhaps it was in error by me to assume that your original post was sarcastic.... nevermind.

[whereagles]

Yeah, pass. I have an easy diamond bid later, so wtp?

If pard can come up with a 3NT reopenin, THEN I might have a problem.. LOL. (Between pass and 6♦, of course.)

[pclayton]

I was CHO here.

It's funny. If I held ♠AKJxxxxx, you couldn't shut me up for all the cheese in Alkmaar.

Here, I don't want to compete for the partscore but I would gladly bid diamonds the next round, which is a nice description, don't you think?

I think that we've had some discussions around here that 4m over 3M tends to be very strong anyway.

[P_Marlowe]

Pass, but if they intend to play game, I will
play game.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[Halo]

4♦ seems reasonable.

I could pass on the assumption that someone will make life easy - just don't think it will be me.

[han]

This wasn't a joke post, I bid 4♦ when playing with Phil yesterday. Thanks for the responses.

[jdonn]

han, on May 20 2008, 05:31 PM, said:

This wasn't a joke post, I bid 4♦ when playing with Phil yesterday. Thanks for the responses.

Just so you know, when I posted that I thought you were joking I was stupid and thinking the hand had seven diamonds (yes I see the name of the thread) in which case it would be a stupid problem. With eight I still pass but I certainly don't think it's a dumb problem any more.