Trying to play Cappelletti
#21
Posted 2008-May-11, 19:10
Bridge should be fun!
#22
Posted 2008-May-11, 19:12
jillybean2, on May 11 2008, 08:10 PM, said:
Natural over NT is often as good as any system - especially in 2nd seat.
#23
Posted 2008-May-11, 19:26
#24
Posted 2008-May-11, 20:09
#25
Posted 2008-May-11, 20:12
Since much of Kathryn's club and many online opps play Capp. Here's a simple defence to it, and I recommend clicking on the more advanced version as well, although you may wish to play the more common normal leb rather than transfer leb (which I think is superior)
http://larryco.com/BG%20articles/A03nt_int...nce_simpler.htm
Allow me to recommend DONT http://larryco.com/B...s/A41--DONT.htm with the idea being to Disturb the Opponent's NT for you, Kathryn as it is rather well known in N.Am and allows you to show all 2 suiters and stay at the 2 level. The only change I'd make to what is published someplaces concerning DONT is that if you are dealt the very rare GF 2 suited monster, you overcall 2NT. (I have seen that someplaces but not all and have that rare bird a couple of times )
I play DONT vs strong NT if PD plays it, or I can do Brozel but still prefer DONT. Capp is a last resort and I don't miss not being able to double for penalties and don't miss the guessing games that follow if PD is really weak, or when the opps runout if LHO is nearly broke.
#26
Posted 2008-May-11, 21:10
X - A single minor or both majors, forces 2♣
2♣ - Clubs and a higher
2♦ - Diamonds and a major
2M - Natural
After X - 2♣:
Pass - Club single suiter
2♦ - Diamond single suiter
2♥ - Both majors
Basically, compared to vanilla DONT it lets you bid the major single suiters immediatly (Very important IMO), and puts the both major hand into double (no great loss).
#27
Posted 2008-May-11, 21:27
TylerE, on May 11 2008, 10:10 PM, said:
X - A single minor or both majors, forces 2♣
2♣ - Clubs and a higher
2♦ - Diamonds and a major
2M - Natural
After X - 2♣:
Pass - Club single suiter
2♦ - Diamond single suiter
2♥ - Both majors
Basically, compared to vanilla DONT it lets you bid the major single suiters immediatly (Very important IMO), and puts the both major hand into double (no great loss).
Tyler has a good point here. It is important to get that good major into the picture quickly and the direct 2M generally forces the opp to use lebensohl if they play it, rather than starting with a double which they can simply ignore and bid as if nothing happened.
With this being B/I I urge Kathryn to make certain her partnerships know the basic defences to the Capp she encounters so often.
Again, I stress that many top experts don't see much need for a penalty double of the 15-17 NT that I expect is the norm in most of her games.
#28
Posted 2008-May-11, 21:36
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Some of the juiciest penalties I've seen have been penalty doubles of strong NTs.
The key issue is to actually have a penalty double - as Ron Anderson long ago pointed out a penalty double of a strong NT is all about having a very good lead to make, not high card points. It might not make it into any testbooks, but Kxx, xx, KQJ9xx, Ax makes for a great penalty double.
#29
Posted 2008-May-11, 21:45
neilkaz, on May 11 2008, 08:27 PM, said:
I do not know any defenses to Capp, interference over our 1nt doesn't happen often but when it does, its Capp.
Bridge should be fun!
#30
Posted 2008-May-12, 00:58
jillybean2, on May 11 2008, 10:45 PM, said:
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#31
Posted 2008-May-12, 01:28
jillybean2, on May 11 2008, 07:45 PM, said:
neilkaz, on May 11 2008, 08:27 PM, said:
I do not know any defenses to Capp, interference over our 1nt doesn't happen often but when it does, its Capp.
I would work much more on what you do when someone bids capp over you then on alternative structures over nt when capp is mostly good enough and super common and natural is fine too (personally I prefer suction-y methods like psycho-inverted-suction over nt where allowed but as this thread demonstrates and as the ACBL magazine a few months back showed conventions over 1NT abound).
#32
Posted 2008-May-12, 14:30
As for tv, screw it. You aren't missing anything. -- Ken Berg
Our ultimate goal on defense is to know by trick two or three everyone's hand at the table. -- Mike777
I have come to realise it is futile to expect or hope a regular club game will be run in accordance with the laws. -- Jillybean
#33
Posted 2008-May-12, 14:59
best regards
jocdelevat
#34
Posted 2008-May-12, 16:27
blackshoe, on May 12 2008, 03:30 PM, said:
At the B/I level and noting the most of her club plays Capp. This simple (again I post it) http://larryco.com/BG%20articles/A03nt_int...nce_simpler.htm
Should be adequate and most easy to remember.
1) Ignore conventional doubles
2) Double of any 2♣ overcall is Stayman and transfers still apply.
3) The the double is penalty all systems off and bids by responder are runouts.
This will have you in better shape with coping with Capp or DONT or Brozel (the most common things I encounter in typical US club level games) than most of your peers.
.. neilkaz ..
#35
Posted 2008-May-12, 17:35
The convention handled hands with four spades and a longer minor (with a method I cannot remember).
I thought later, when playing D.O.N.T., that a 2♠ overcall showing spades AND and 2♠ call after doubling, also to show spades, with the nuance of strength alone, to be dumb. It made more sense to me to have one show spades (maybe X...2♠?) and the other (2♠?) show spades and a longer minor, like this hand. 2NT could then show hearts and a longer minor. Something like that.
The convention I now use has the same ability to handle the 4♠/5+minor hands as well.
So, if you want a tinker tool, think about whether whatever approach you decide upon has an "I got spades" redundancy, and use one for 4♠/5+minor if you agree that this is a useful treatment.
-P.J. Painter.
#36
Posted 2008-May-12, 19:43
neilkaz, on May 12 2008, 03:27 PM, said:
Good link. This is more or less, how I bid after interference.
I played at another club this morning where we didn’t encounter Capp but did have a pair opening 10-12 1nts. Yet another thing to discuss, I just treated it as a light opener and bid naturally. 2nd in C, 5th overall in our section
Bridge should be fun!
#37
Posted 2008-May-12, 20:04
* 2C = the majors, rest natural, Dble = cards

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