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another big 2 suiter unfortunately very likelymisfit

Poll: Next call? (27 member(s) have cast votes)

Next call?

  1. Pass (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  2. 4S (6 votes [22.22%])

    Percentage of vote: 22.22%

  3. 4H (3 votes [11.11%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.11%

  4. 4NT (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  5. 5H (2 votes [7.41%])

    Percentage of vote: 7.41%

  6. 5S (9 votes [33.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 33.33%

  7. 6H (7 votes [25.93%])

    Percentage of vote: 25.93%

  8. 6NT (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  9. Other (0 votes [0.00%])

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#1 User is offline   manudude03 

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Posted 2008-April-30, 19:22

Scoring: IMP

1♦-1♥
3♦-3♠
3NT-???


Playing south you hold the hand above. Agree with the bidding so far? What's the next call?

EDIT: LHO made a 2C overcall if that changes anything.

This post has been edited by manudude03: 2008-May-04, 21:00

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Posted 2008-April-30, 19:25

Well we have a great hand and agree it's a likely misfit. However, partner jump rebid 3♦ so he should have a pretty good hand. Our 3♠ bid could be made on a stopper rather than a real suit. I'm definitely not passing 3NT. I'm debating between the conservative 4♥ or something else. Amongst "something elses" I'm considering 4♠ (should show great playing strength) or even 5NT p.a.s. and correcting 6m to 6♥. Still thinking.
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Posted 2008-April-30, 19:30

This could be a great hand, or we could struggle.

4♠ seems like a good move here. My second choice is 5♠ but that is so committal.
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Posted 2008-April-30, 19:49

I think I will bid 5♠, since I would bid 4♠ on hands which are much worse than the one I have.
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Posted 2008-April-30, 22:04

4♠ seems right. I haven't decided what I am going to do over 5♥.
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Posted 2008-April-30, 22:19

4S I guess. 100% not passing 3NT
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Posted 2008-May-01, 12:15

What about a 4♣ bid? This way we can pass if he bids 4 of either major, and we can suggest 4♥ over 4♦. To me this is not a cue, since we could bid 4♦ over 3NT to suggest diamonds (and I remember a thread recently where this bid was made on xx)
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Posted 2008-May-01, 12:18

Apollo81, on May 1 2008, 01:15 PM, said:

What about a 4♣ bid?  This way we can pass if he bids 4 of either major, and we can suggest 4♥ over 4♦.  To me this is not a cue, since we could bid 4♦ over 3NT to suggest diamonds (and I remember a thread recently where this bid was made on xx)

So how do you define 4♣? As "this bid means nothing but leaves you room to do everything"? It seems like with your plan as described you might as well bid 4♥ now.
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Posted 2008-May-01, 12:22

jdonn, on May 1 2008, 02:18 PM, said:

Apollo81, on May 1 2008, 01:15 PM, said:

What about a 4♣ bid?  This way we can pass if he bids 4 of either major, and we can suggest 4♥ over 4♦.  To me this is not a cue, since we could bid 4♦ over 3NT to suggest diamonds (and I remember a thread recently where this bid was made on xx)

So how do you define 4♣? As "this bid means nothing but leaves you room to do everything"? It seems like with your plan as described you might as well bid 4♥ now.

but I want partner to bid spades if he is, say, 3073.

what do you think this 4♣ means?
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Posted 2008-May-01, 12:26

Apollo81, on May 1 2008, 01:22 PM, said:

jdonn, on May 1 2008, 02:18 PM, said:

Apollo81, on May 1 2008, 01:15 PM, said:

What about a 4♣ bid?  This way we can pass if he bids 4 of either major, and we can suggest 4♥ over 4♦.  To me this is not a cue, since we could bid 4♦ over 3NT to suggest diamonds (and I remember a thread recently where this bid was made on xx)

So how do you define 4♣? As "this bid means nothing but leaves you room to do everything"? It seems like with your plan as described you might as well bid 4♥ now.

but I want partner to bid spades if he is, say, 3073.

what do you think this 4♣ means?

Oh I have no idea :) But I seriously doubt that whatever you want it to mean, partner will take it that way. If he is 3073 I would be shocked if he didn't bid 4♦ over it.
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Posted 2008-May-01, 12:39

jdonn, on May 1 2008, 02:26 PM, said:

Apollo81, on May 1 2008, 01:22 PM, said:

jdonn, on May 1 2008, 02:18 PM, said:

Apollo81, on May 1 2008, 01:15 PM, said:

What about a 4♣ bid?  This way we can pass if he bids 4 of either major, and we can suggest 4♥ over 4♦.  To me this is not a cue, since we could bid 4♦ over 3NT to suggest diamonds (and I remember a thread recently where this bid was made on xx)

So how do you define 4♣? As "this bid means nothing but leaves you room to do everything"? It seems like with your plan as described you might as well bid 4♥ now.

but I want partner to bid spades if he is, say, 3073.

what do you think this 4♣ means?

Oh I have no idea :) But I seriously doubt that whatever you want it to mean, partner will take it that way. If he is 3073 I would be shocked if he didn't bid 4♦ over it.

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Posted 2008-May-02, 01:21

Hi,

5S.

Yes the bidding so far was fine.

5S should be forcing asking partner
to choose. misfit be dammend.

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Posted 2008-May-04, 21:11

apologies on the mistake on OP. Anyway, full hand:

Scoring: IMP

1D-(P)-1H-(2C)
3D-(P)-3S-(P)
3NT-(P)-5H-AP


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Posted 2008-May-06, 04:43

4S for me too.. i dont think ill be able to reach 6H.

1D----1H
3D----3S
3Nt---4S
5D ( no extra, no fit)----pass

If im feeling optimist.

1D----1H
3D----3S
3Nt----4S
5C (extras)---5Nt PAS
6C (my D arent solid)-----6H
pass
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Posted 2008-May-07, 13:09

4S.
Showing 5-6 in Majors at least, & slam interesting.
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