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Another bet to settle

Poll: What is your rebid? (49 member(s) have cast votes)

What is your rebid?

  1. 2C (45 votes [91.84%])

    Percentage of vote: 91.84%

  2. 2D (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  3. 2N (3 votes [6.12%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.12%

  4. 3C (1 votes [2.04%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.04%

  5. 3D (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  6. 3N (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  7. Something Ridiculous (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#1 User is offline   Echognome 

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Posted 2008-April-26, 23:11

Both Vul, MP - Uncontested auction

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J8
AKQJ6
AQ75

You are dealer and open 1. Partner responds 1.

What now?
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Posted 2008-April-26, 23:17

2n or 2c come to mind here. i have no faith in my declarer play, so 2c
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Posted 2008-April-26, 23:17

2 WTP
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Posted 2008-April-26, 23:49

2 is obvious unless you are prone to auto-tilt.
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Posted 2008-April-27, 00:04

Sorry this one makes no sense to me. What's wrong with 2C?
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Posted 2008-April-27, 00:10

2C.

The alternative, but a far distant alternative, would be 3C.
2NT certainly not, but I could have opened 1NT.

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Posted 2008-April-27, 05:33

2 wtp?
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Posted 2008-April-27, 06:01

...and it's too good a hand to have opened 1NT on in the first place, as well as likely to wrongside the contract
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Posted 2008-April-27, 09:49

2, 2, 2. Why would anything else come to mind???
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Posted 2008-April-27, 09:56

Thanks all. I'm with you. I said it was a 2 wtp? But someone I know well was adamant that this was a 2NT rebid. I'll be enjoying the free beer.
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Posted 2008-April-27, 10:44

wtp
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Posted 2008-April-27, 11:35

Echognome, on Apr 27 2008, 10:56 AM, said:

Thanks all. I'm with you. I said it was a 2 wtp? But someone I know well was adamant that this was a 2NT rebid. I'll be enjoying the free beer.

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Posted 2008-April-27, 11:47

jdonn, on Apr 27 2008, 09:35 AM, said:

Echognome, on Apr 27 2008, 10:56 AM, said:

Thanks all.  I'm with you.  I said it was a 2 wtp?  But someone I know well was adamant that this was a 2NT rebid.  I'll be enjoying the free beer.

Spill who, inquiring minds want to know.

obv...
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Posted 2008-April-27, 12:07

Hate to say it gnome but I think you won this one.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2008-April-27, 13:54

2 as I am allowed to hold a max for my bidding.
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Posted 2008-April-27, 14:40

2 for me as well.

That said, a plug. One of my favorite little pet conventions is a 2 opening showing both minors.

In the context of a canape approach, this is an integral part of a solution to canape purity, IMO. In the context of a natural strong club like Precision, this also seems to enhance minor bidding and is part of a structure that seems to improve upon the ugly standard Precision/Neopolitan 2 and Precision 2 openings.

In the context of SA or 2/1 GF, this bid also helps with minor two-suiters. Instead of a range from a Rule-of-Twenty garbage hand to a wildly bulky just-under-GF hand, you split the range in two, such that 2 shows the "tweener" holding and 1...2 (or any number of 1...whatever auctions with longer clubs) shows a truly limited hand.

The benefits are profound. Partners need not courtesy correct on junk, for instance. When you open 2, the opponents have been preempted out of a one-level major overcall, which serves in practice to eliminate weak jump overcalls into a major. When the opponents do overcall, or double, the enhanced value expectation from the 2 opening, and the level increase, allows more frequent penalty doubles by Responder, and he can do so in complete disregard of a four-card holding in the other major.

With this actual hand, then, I would have preferred a 2 opening.

ICYC, the response structure to a 2 opening:

2: Art, asking. Op with min bids a major fragment (2 or 3=hearts) if he has one, or 2NT; with a max, Op bids a major frag at 3-L, or 3/3NT (distinguish as you wish); after any answer, 4minor is GF and asks Op to RKCB/Exclusion RKCB). 2 natural, NF but constructive. X penalty. 3M is GF and 6+. 2NT/3NT nat. P/3 pref, 3/4/4 preemptive. 5Minor to play. 2-2-X might better be "stolen bid;" discuss. Op can reopen over 2 by 2 with frag. 1...2 is then less than tweener.
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Posted 2008-April-27, 15:33

I voted for 2C and I think it is clearly right.

However I am amazed at the vote in this poll. Play in a f2f event and I reckon about 80% of the players will rebid 2NT (and another 15% something odd like 3C or 3D).
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Posted 2008-April-27, 15:37

2C.

The time to bid NT came and went with the 1D choice. It's either 1NT now or 1D now, and once a course of action has been decided you cannot flip-flop back and forth between the two.
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Posted 2008-April-30, 00:06

Which choice do I vote for if I want to bid 4?
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Posted 2008-April-30, 00:22

jchiu, on Apr 29 2008, 10:06 PM, said:

Which choice do I vote for if I want to bid 4?

I forgot to add the poll option for you:

I just want to buy gnome a beer.
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