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Another bidding problem.

Poll: Sign off or not? (37 member(s) have cast votes)

Sign off or not?

  1. 1NT was disgusting, abstain. (7 votes [18.92%])

    Percentage of vote: 18.92%

  2. Agree with 1NT but now I should sign off with my stiff heart. (4 votes [10.81%])

    Percentage of vote: 10.81%

  3. Agree with 1NT and all my points are working, great! (26 votes [70.27%])

    Percentage of vote: 70.27%

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#21 User is offline   mikeh 

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Posted 2008-April-17, 09:40

Fluffy, on Apr 17 2008, 09:48 AM, said:

1NT is ridicolous, lying about support for partner's why do americans love it?

After 4♦ our hand is great, don't forget to add some extra HCP for the singleton heart lol, after all we sould open 1NT instead.

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1. It is not a lie to rebid 1N on this hand if your partnership agreement allows it

2. A lot of very good players (not all of whom are American) think that this approach is better than rebidding an indifferent 5 card club suit or opening 1♦ on 4=5 in the minors and rebidding 2♣... for them, that would be a 'lie' about relative minor suit length

3. Not all who would rebid 1N on this hand 'love it'. I am not a 1N rebidder on a stiff, but this hand tempts me and I might have done it.. stiff Q is going to be as good as xx almost anytime partner puts us back in hearts
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Posted 2008-April-17, 09:47

hrothgar, on Apr 17 2008, 10:01 AM, said:

Choice of call depends on cue bidding style. I would bid either 4♠ if I can cue bid second round controls.

4NT: Turbo, showing an odd number of keycards (hearts have been agreed).
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Posted 2008-April-17, 10:32

Several people have said that a singleton queen of hearts is as good as a small doubleton. That's true in the actual auction, where partner is known to have six of them, and probably fairly good ones. However, I don't think it would be true if he had bid 2H, which he might do, or want to do, on a five card suit. When it comes to keeping control, there is a big difference between a 5-2 and a 5-1 fit.
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Posted 2008-April-17, 11:04

Yes, if you have agreed to rebid 1NT with a stiff in p's suit, p should not take you out with a 5-card.
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Posted 2008-April-17, 19:57

I would have opened 1D and rebid 2C of course. I agree that in this auction 4D is an auto splinter. I think 5D is the bid now and if partner only bids 5H I will pass.
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