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#1 User is offline   Echognome 

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Posted 2008-March-27, 23:52

Scoring: IMP

P - P - 1 - P
1 - P - P - 1NT
2 - All Pass


Result: Down 2
Lose: 3 imps

West thinks East should have corrected to 2.
East thinks West showed 4 and 5+.

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Posted 2008-March-27, 23:57

West is so full of ***** ...

Fortunately, he must have tons of practice playing atrocious contracts.
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Posted 2008-March-27, 23:58

2 eh... i'd be looking for the red card with that collection.
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Posted 2008-March-28, 00:05

How can West not double this?
I would also take 2 as suggesting longer clubs, since with 5 spades you can bid 2, and with a balanced hand you pass...or double...
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Posted 2008-March-28, 00:11

I dont care for 2C - I think x is clear unless you are playing with a lunatic.
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Posted 2008-March-28, 00:27

Yes, West was wrong. Easts pass is normal.
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Posted 2008-March-28, 00:38

matmat, on Mar 28 2008, 06:58 PM, said:

2 eh... i'd be looking for the red card with that collection.

Partner passed 1 i think the red card is too much.

However with a balanced hand I would not be suggesting another contract - a green card will do.

I can't see a really bad action from east although opening with balanced 10 counts does work out badly surprisingly often (unless partner knows you can be this light). This good diamond suit probably makes 1 ok.

However west's 2 is off the planet in my opinion.
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Posted 2008-March-28, 00:44

Agree with everyone else that West is really nuts.
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Posted 2008-March-28, 00:52

I think a pass over 1NT is clear. East passed 1, strongly suggesting less than opening strength or an ugly minimum. With a balance full opener east would rebid 1NT or 2 (with four of them).

Take away the Q and this is still a 3rd seat 1 opening to me.
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Posted 2008-March-28, 00:55

skaeran, on Mar 27 2008, 11:52 PM, said:

I think a pass over 1NT is clear. East passed 1, strongly suggesting less than opening strength or an ugly minimum. With a balance full opener east would rebid 1NT or 2 (with four of them).

Take away the Q and this is still a 3rd seat 1 opening to me.

I agree mostly with the first, not at all with the second; I'd open 2 without the Q or pass.
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Posted 2008-March-28, 01:09

Seems we have unanimity. I was East. My partner was very unpleased after the hand. I told him "No worries. I always played 2 there as 4, 5+."

He messaged me afterwards and said "was fine pd except yr pass on 2 was a horror imo:)"

I told him he should keep his mind open and I would post it.
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Posted 2008-March-28, 03:02

skaeran, on Mar 28 2008, 07:52 PM, said:

I think a pass over 1NT is clear. East passed 1, strongly suggesting less than opening strength or an ugly minimum. With a balance full opener east would rebid 1NT or 2 (with four of them).

Take away the Q and this is still a 3rd seat 1 opening to me.

I think it is a better third seat opening without the Q
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Posted 2008-March-28, 03:03

Echognome, on Mar 28 2008, 08:09 PM, said:

Seems we have unanimity. I was East. My partner was very unpleased after the hand. I told him "No worries. I always played 2 there as 4, 5+."

He messaged me afterwards and said "was fine pd except yr pass on 2 was a horror imo:)"

I told him he should keep his mind open and I would post it.

Sorry I thought you were west ... ;)
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Posted 2008-March-28, 05:46

Hi,

west should either pass or make a penalty
double, given that East passed 1S, I can
understand a Pass.

But one thing is sure, West should not bid 2C.

With kind regards
Marlowe

PS: I would have passed with the East hand,
which may explain why I would double with the
West hand, I will always hold a stronger hand as
the current East hand.
With kind regards
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
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Posted 2008-March-28, 09:08

2 was silly.
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Posted 2008-March-28, 15:59

I'd have opened 2 with or without Q. Once I would have opened 3.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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