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Poll: What's the double? (35 member(s) have cast votes)

What's the double?

  1. Penalty (1 votes [2.86%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.86%

  2. Takeout (31 votes [88.57%])

    Percentage of vote: 88.57%

  3. Depends on doubler's tempo (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  4. Depends on how many spades I have in my hand (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  5. Would rather be shot than play with a pickup partner (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  6. Isn't multi illegal on BBO? (1 votes [2.86%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.86%

  7. What does it say on the ACBL written defense? (2 votes [5.71%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.71%

  8. Something Else (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#1 User is offline   awm 

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Posted 2008-March-26, 13:12

Pickup partnership, without discussion. You see the auction:

2♦(1) - Pass - 2♥(2) - Pass
2♠(3) - Pass - Pass - Double

(1) Weak-only multi; weak two in either major
(2) Pass or correct
(3) Spades

What do you think about the double?
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Posted 2008-March-26, 13:18

Some people defend the multi like this:

2♦ pass 2♥ dbl = take out of hearts
2♦ pass 2♥ pass + dbl of 2♠ = take out of spades

This is part of the meckwell defense to the multi. It might be what pard is thinking of.
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Posted 2008-March-26, 13:30

whereagles, on Mar 26 2008, 02:18 PM, said:

Some people defend the multi like this:

2♦ pass 2♥ dbl = take out of hearts
2♦ pass 2♥ pass + dbl of 2♠ = take out of spades

This is part of the meckwell defense to the multi. It might be what pard is thinking of.

Or, partner has no clue what we should be playing but is assuming that his partner has a brain.

Of course this is takeout with expected shortness in spades.
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Posted 2008-March-26, 13:59

kenrexford, on Mar 26 2008, 07:30 PM, said:

Or, partner has no clue what we should be playing but is assuming that his partner has a brain.

This assumption is one of the main reasons partnerships broke up.
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Posted 2008-March-26, 14:05

Fluffy, on Mar 26 2008, 02:59 PM, said:

This assumption is one of the main reasons partnerships broke up.

i thought it was bad hygene and the fisticuffs.

takeout for me...
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Posted 2008-March-26, 15:23

For me that's been a t/o for maybe 25 years. I see no reason to switch, btw. :)
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Posted 2008-March-26, 15:42

t/o
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Posted 2008-March-26, 16:26

Takeout for us.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2008-March-26, 16:28

Takeout, and not so good a hand you would have doubled 2♥ regardless of shape.
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Posted 2008-March-26, 16:35

Yes, also denies a hand that would jump to 3NT over 2H. B)
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2008-March-26, 16:47

Take your rotten cabbage back to the farm please.
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Posted 2008-March-26, 18:10

t/o
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Posted 2008-March-26, 18:35

This was part of my experience playing with an "expert" pickup today. I was the doubler. My partner passed the double with ♠xxx ♥AJ ♦QJxx ♣QTxx. We were cold for nine tricks in clubs or ten tricks in diamonds. Opponents were cold for nine tricks in spades. B)

After the hand, partner explained that only a novice like me would double 2♠ with only the singleton king of spades.
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Posted 2008-March-26, 18:37

Did you expect the king to take a trick Adam, in front of the multi bidder? Such a novice! B)
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2008-March-26, 19:19

Takeout. I couldn't takeout double 2♥ obviously but now I can takeout double 2♠.
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