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Red against white, IMPs:
A83
Q87
5
AKJ1076
1C - (1D) - 1NT - (p)
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Posted 2008-March-24, 22:47
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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Posted 2008-March-24, 22:58
3NT
TBH, I am not too sure of the difference in meaning between 3NT and 3♣? Presumably partner is allowed to bid 3NT if we bid 3♣, but with this hand, vul at IMPs, I prefer an immediate 3NT. Not sure when I would prefer 3♣?
TBH, I am not too sure of the difference in meaning between 3NT and 3♣? Presumably partner is allowed to bid 3NT if we bid 3♣, but with this hand, vul at IMPs, I prefer an immediate 3NT. Not sure when I would prefer 3♣?
That's impossible. No one can give more than one hundred percent. By definition that is the most anyone can give.
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Posted 2008-March-24, 23:36
3♣. Pard knows the value of his club length / Q and diamond cards better than me. 3♣ / 3N or 5♣ might be the right spot.
Playing with a weak partner, I'd just shoot 3N.
Playing with a weak partner, I'd just shoot 3N.
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Posted 2008-March-25, 02:14
3♣ is right on for values. Partner know its imps and know we are red.
From Psych "I mean, Gus and I never see eye-to-eye on work stuff.
For instance, he doesn't like being used as a human shield when we're being shot at.
I happen to think it's a very noble way to meet one's maker, especially for a guy like him.
Bottom line is we never let that difference of opinion interfere with anything."
For instance, he doesn't like being used as a human shield when we're being shot at.
I happen to think it's a very noble way to meet one's maker, especially for a guy like him.
Bottom line is we never let that difference of opinion interfere with anything."
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Posted 2008-March-25, 03:32
3♣ for me as well.
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Posted 2008-March-25, 04:12
will we really really like it if pd passes 3♣? i don't think so... 3n
... and I can prove it with my usual, flawless logic.
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Posted 2008-March-25, 04:17
gwnn, on Mar 25 2008, 10:12 AM, said:
will we really really like it if pd passes 3♣?
Only if 3NT doesn't make
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Posted 2008-March-25, 05:13
3♦, just in case pard is one of those "I don't care about stoppers" jokers, like ME
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Posted 2008-March-25, 05:37
I think 3NT is too much. We need partner to have good cards and/or something extra to make game.
3♣ seems more descriptive than 2NT.
3♣ seems more descriptive than 2NT.
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Posted 2008-March-25, 06:15
3NT for me.
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Posted 2008-March-25, 06:27
2♦
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Posted 2008-March-25, 06:29
kenrexford, on Mar 25 2008, 07:27 AM, said:
2♦
Woah you know something weird...I saw last poster in this thread was kenrexford and before opening it I was like "I bet it's 2D"... these are the kinds of things that happen when its 8:30 am and you haven't been to bed
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Posted 2008-March-25, 06:33
Maybe 2♠ is the safer way of reaching 3N. After all p needs to have some help in hearts. Then again, if p bids 3N over our 2♠, opps will know to switch spades after having won trick one with ♦A.
I think I bid 3N, not sure how partner is supposed to know when to bid 3N over 3♣.
I think I bid 3N, not sure how partner is supposed to know when to bid 3N over 3♣.
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Posted 2008-March-25, 06:53
3 ♣ looks like a good invite.
xxx,xxx,Axxx,Qxx is not enough for him to make 3 NT. And with xxx,Jxxx,AQx,xxx we still need some luck to make 3 NT, so an invitation is more then enough for me.
xxx,xxx,Axxx,Qxx is not enough for him to make 3 NT. And with xxx,Jxxx,AQx,xxx we still need some luck to make 3 NT, so an invitation is more then enough for me.
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Posted 2008-March-25, 07:02
Codo, on Mar 25 2008, 07:53 AM, said:
3 ♣ looks like a good invite.
xxx,xxx,Axxx,Qxx is not enough for him to make 3 NT. And with xxx,Jxxx,AQx,xxx we still need some luck to make 3 NT, so an invitation is more then enough for me.
xxx,xxx,Axxx,Qxx is not enough for him to make 3 NT. And with xxx,Jxxx,AQx,xxx we still need some luck to make 3 NT, so an invitation is more then enough for me.
those are some awesome 1N bids lol
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Posted 2008-March-25, 07:55
Jlall, on Mar 25 2008, 10:02 PM, said:
Codo, on Mar 25 2008, 07:53 AM, said:
3 ♣ looks like a good invite.
xxx,xxx,Axxx,Qxx is not enough for him to make 3 NT. And with xxx,Jxxx,AQx,xxx we still need some luck to make 3 NT, so an invitation is more then enough for me.
xxx,xxx,Axxx,Qxx is not enough for him to make 3 NT. And with xxx,Jxxx,AQx,xxx we still need some luck to make 3 NT, so an invitation is more then enough for me.
those are some awesome 1N bids lol
Oh sorry Auntie Justin is passing with these hands, a free 1 NT bid promises 8-11 HCPs, bad me to forget this.
You need something around xxx,Jxx,AQxx,Qxx to make 3 NT 99 % laydown and no pd will pass 3 Club with this.
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Posted 2008-March-25, 09:45
helene_t, on Mar 25 2008, 07:33 AM, said:
I think I bid 3N, not sure how partner is supposed to know when to bid 3N over 3♣.
Helene said it best imo. We likely have 5 clubs tricks even when partner has a stiff club. I don't want partner to look at his club suit to decide whether we want to be in game!
It helped that I was playing with aunty Justine who is a sound 1NT bidder and sometimes makes games that are less than 99%.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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Posted 2008-March-25, 10:27
I don't think 5♣ tricks will be enough opposite a minimum 1N, so I involve partner via 3♣. Partner will/should know that I would bid game with AKQxxx of clubs and an outside trick or AKJxxx and 2 outside tricks, so should be well-positioned to make the final decision.
Incidentally, and unusually for me, I disagree with helene's point: in fact I think that 3♣ is so descriptive that I can't imagine partner going wrong very often... certainly, I expect partner to make the right decision over 3♣ more frequently than I expect the blast to 3N to be right.
But it does depend on who I am playing with: with a poor partner, I blast. With a good partner, I involve.
Incidentally, and unusually for me, I disagree with helene's point: in fact I think that 3♣ is so descriptive that I can't imagine partner going wrong very often... certainly, I expect partner to make the right decision over 3♣ more frequently than I expect the blast to 3N to be right.
But it does depend on who I am playing with: with a poor partner, I blast. With a good partner, I involve.
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Posted 2008-March-25, 13:38
agree 100% with mikeh
From Psych "I mean, Gus and I never see eye-to-eye on work stuff.
For instance, he doesn't like being used as a human shield when we're being shot at.
I happen to think it's a very noble way to meet one's maker, especially for a guy like him.
Bottom line is we never let that difference of opinion interfere with anything."
For instance, he doesn't like being used as a human shield when we're being shot at.
I happen to think it's a very noble way to meet one's maker, especially for a guy like him.
Bottom line is we never let that difference of opinion interfere with anything."
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Posted 2008-March-25, 13:52
Codo, on Mar 25 2008, 08:55 AM, said:
Oh sorry Auntie Justin is passing with these hands, a free 1 NT bid promises 8-11 HCPs, bad me to forget this.
You need something around xxx,Jxx,AQxx,Qxx to make 3 NT 99 % laydown and no pd will pass 3 Club with this.
You need something around xxx,Jxx,AQxx,Qxx to make 3 NT 99 % laydown and no pd will pass 3 Club with this.
I think the criticism has as much to do with the major suit holdings as it doesnt the badness of the hands. People get so hung up on preempting the opponents from bidding 1 of a major that they often bid 1NT on silly hands.
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