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Poll: What do you bid (34 member(s) have cast votes)

What do you bid

  1. Pass - misfit, get out now (7 votes [20.59%])

    Percentage of vote: 20.59%

  2. 2S - shows 6 spades, clubs, and a good hand, so bid it (25 votes [73.53%])

    Percentage of vote: 73.53%

  3. 2N - protect the queen of diamonds (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  4. other? (2 votes [5.88%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.88%

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Posted 2008-March-22, 20:10

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Why are all of these with me RED. Opponents silent, world class partner and opponents, once again you are me. Would you have bid 2♣ to start off with? Having been forced to bid 2♣ what do you call over partner's 2♥ bid?

1♠ - 1NT (forcing)
2♣ - 2♥
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Posted 2008-March-22, 20:23

I bid 2S. I think it is slightly more likely that 2S while 2H goes down than the other way around.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2008-March-22, 20:23

2♠

Agree with 2♣, and now 2♠ seems completely normal.
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Posted 2008-March-22, 20:30

We actually have a pretty good dummy for ♥. Our aces will take tricks no matter the denomination and partner's hand may only be useful in hearts. If I bid 2♠ I would do so not as a correction, but as a forward going move. I'm going to pass, but I think it's very close.
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Posted 2008-March-22, 20:40

2C is very normal and now I bid 2S which I also consider very normal. 1-5 and 2-6 are both easily possible for partner, and I think 2-5 is even possible (though not the norm for that shape).

Big BTW: I don't think 2S shows extras, as I would bid 2C with almost all 6-4 hands.
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Posted 2008-March-22, 21:13

2♠ for me. 2♣ seems fine to me.
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Posted 2008-March-23, 04:14

2N - protect the queen of diamonds would be a very clever call
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Posted 2008-March-23, 04:32

FrancesHinden, on Mar 23 2008, 12:14 PM, said:

2N - protect the queen of diamonds would be a very clever call

:) Works even better if you bid it before partner bids 1NT
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Posted 2008-March-23, 05:47

with 10-12 I thikn it is better to rebid 2♠ with a 6-4, on a forcing NT context at least. This tells partner that I had a 6 card suit, and he knows that might be the reason why I opened at the 1 level.

so it is not that 2♠ promises slicy extras, but at least a decent opening.

pass has my simpaties, but I think making game is not impossible, so 2♠.
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Posted 2008-March-23, 07:31

If partner could have bid 2♦ BART, then he has six hearts. As you are playing with a WC partner and against WC opponents, I'm sure you agreed to BART. :) So, partner has 6-1 or 6-2, or even 6-0. The scoring is IMPs. So, I think I pass if my assumptions are correct.
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Posted 2008-March-23, 13:01

There still might be a game so I take one more move. We have extra strength and extra distribution. I show all of this by not passing and bid 2♠.
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Posted 2008-March-23, 13:17

I think it's very close between pass and 2♠. If I was sure we should stop at the 2-level, I'd probably pass now. But we still just might have a game, so I'll take another bid; 2♠.
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Posted 2008-March-23, 13:54

Pass.

Partner is 1 or 0 in spades. Let the weak hand play the misfit.
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Posted 2008-March-23, 17:10

I had planned on rebidding 2♠ when I started with 2♣ and I don't see any reason why I shouldn't finish this plan.

Pard might even have 5 hearts on this bidding.
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Posted 2008-March-24, 00:20

Wow surprising answers, I think this is wtp 2♠.
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Posted 2008-March-24, 01:02

jdonn, on Mar 24 2008, 07:20 AM, said:

Wow surprising answers, I think this is wtp 2♠.

Well, that really depends upon what hands you expect partner to rebid 2♥ on. If that's frequently done on a 5-card suit, 2♠ is blindingly obvious. If you expect a 6-card suit from partner and short spades, pass will more often be the winning bid.
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Posted 2008-March-24, 01:06

skaeran, on Mar 24 2008, 02:02 AM, said:

jdonn, on Mar 24 2008, 07:20 AM, said:

Wow surprising answers, I think this is wtp 2♠.

Well, that really depends upon what hands you expect partner to rebid 2♥ on. If that's frequently done on a 5-card suit, 2♠ is blindingly obvious. If you expect a 6-card suit from partner and short spades, pass will more often be the winning bid.

Well that's a matter of judgment not system (obviously no BART here since we would have been told.) So I guess it's another way of me saying it's a wtp 2♠ over the hands on which I believe people should be judging to bid 2♥.
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Posted 2008-March-24, 05:32

jdonn, on Mar 24 2008, 08:06 AM, said:

skaeran, on Mar 24 2008, 02:02 AM, said:

jdonn, on Mar 24 2008, 07:20 AM, said:

Wow surprising answers, I think this is wtp 2♠.

Well, that really depends upon what hands you expect partner to rebid 2♥ on. If that's frequently done on a 5-card suit, 2♠ is blindingly obvious. If you expect a 6-card suit from partner and short spades, pass will more often be the winning bid.

Well that's a matter of judgment not system (obviously no BART here since we would have been told.) So I guess it's another way of me saying it's a wtp 2♠ over the hands on which I believe people should be judging to bid 2♥.

I only disagree with your "wtp" part..... :rolleyes:
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Posted 2008-March-24, 05:34

Agree with auction and bid 2♠ now. I'm not adverse to the idea that 2♠ now shows extras...
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