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IMPs, red against white, standard methods.
xxx
QJ9xxx
Jxx
Q
p - (p) - 1D - (2C)
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you do or you don't
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Posted 2008-March-20, 01:49
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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Posted 2008-March-20, 01:56
2♥
The concern might be that partner thinks we have 5 hearts and didn't open because we have 'only' 10 HCP. (Instead, we have 6 hearts and were too weak to open a vul 2♥
). But with a singleton club and a 6 card major, we have to do something... so 2♥ it is. 
The concern might be that partner thinks we have 5 hearts and didn't open because we have 'only' 10 HCP. (Instead, we have 6 hearts and were too weak to open a vul 2♥
). But with a singleton club and a 6 card major, we have to do something... so 2♥ it is.
That's impossible. No one can give more than one hundred percent. By definition that is the most anyone can give.
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Posted 2008-March-20, 02:06
I don't.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2008-March-20, 02:12
I thought Pass wtp but i guess not, assuming standard methods.
side note, even playing NFB i pass....easy
side note, even playing NFB i pass....easy
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Posted 2008-March-20, 02:36
Pass, easy for me.
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Posted 2008-March-20, 04:20
pass. there has to be some lower limit...
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Posted 2008-March-20, 06:16
It's sick but I'd probably bid 2♥. Since we didn't preempt, the hearts are better than expected even though the hand is worse. Obv wouldnt do this as an uph, and am only doing it now because I think partner will have a tough time reopening since we have a stiff club.
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Posted 2008-March-20, 06:29
Pass.
And a side note: if playing NFB, I would
bid.
With kind regards
Marlowe
And a side note: if playing NFB, I would
bid.
With kind regards
Marlowe
With kind regards
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Posted 2008-March-20, 06:57
There was a hand a while back where you had about an 8-count with a decent 5-card spade suit something like
KJ10xx
Qx
Qxx
xxx
on which I suggested bidding 2S after P P 1D (2C) and was in a minority of approximately one.
That was a better hand than this one.
KJ10xx
Qx
Qxx
xxx
on which I suggested bidding 2S after P P 1D (2C) and was in a minority of approximately one.
That was a better hand than this one.
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Posted 2008-March-20, 07:22
FrancesHinden, on Mar 20 2008, 08:57 AM, said:
There was a hand a while back where you had about an 8-count with a decent 5-card spade suit something like
KJ10xx
Qx
Qxx
xxx
on which I suggested bidding 2S after P P 1D (2C) and was in a minority of approximately one.
That was a better hand than this one.
KJ10xx
Qx
Qxx
xxx
on which I suggested bidding 2S after P P 1D (2C) and was in a minority of approximately one.
That was a better hand than this one.
I'd bid 2♠ here too since I don't expect P to reopen with honor doubleton clubs. I wonder if I posted anything in that thread, and if it matches my answer here =) They are both pretty close IMO. Change the clubs to two small and the hearts to Qxx and it's not as close.
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Posted 2008-March-20, 07:25
No consideration for 2♦?
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Nope, no 2♦. I'll just pass and bid hearts later.
Now, why didn't I open 2♥?????
Now, why didn't I open 2♥?????
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Posted 2008-March-20, 07:34
FrancesHinden, on Mar 20 2008, 07:57 AM, said:
There was a hand a while back where you had about an 8-count with a decent 5-card spade suit something like
KJ10xx
Qx
Qxx
xxx
on which I suggested bidding 2S after P P 1D (2C) and was in a minority of approximately one.
That was a better hand than this one.
KJ10xx
Qx
Qxx
xxx
on which I suggested bidding 2S after P P 1D (2C) and was in a minority of approximately one.
That was a better hand than this one.
http://forums.bridge...showtopic=23121
That's impossible. No one can give more than one hundred percent. By definition that is the most anyone can give.
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Posted 2008-March-20, 08:12
I don't
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Posted 2008-March-20, 09:35
2♥is completelly missleading, as Nuno says, if you didn't open 2♥ is beause you can't bid 2♥ now, so be consistent with your previous bid.
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Posted 2008-March-20, 09:58
Apollo81, on Mar 20 2008, 07:16 AM, said:
It's sick but I'd probably bid 2♥. Since we didn't preempt, the hearts are better than expected even though the hand is worse. Obv wouldnt do this as an uph, and am only doing it now because I think partner will have a tough time reopening since we have a stiff club.
And why is that a bad thing?
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Posted 2008-March-20, 12:04
Don't
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Posted 2008-March-20, 12:43
Agree with Frances that there has to be some lower limit.
Unfavorable is also not the time to mess around.
Pass
Unfavorable is also not the time to mess around.
Pass
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Posted 2008-March-20, 13:31
I find it helpful, in cases like this, to imagine what my call will sound like to partner, and how close my hand is to that meaning.
If I opened 1♦ in 3rd chair and saw partner bid 2♥ over a 2♣ intervention, I would expect a 9 - 11 count with 5 hearts, and I would bid accordingly.
Anyone who bids 2♥ here doesn't deserve a partner, imo. As josh implied, why are we so sure that defending 2♣, when partner has to pass, is all bad?
We hold a 6 count, including the (probably) wasted club Queen. Partner probably has values, yet didn't open 1N. Would any of us be surprised to see partner with a good 4=1=4=4 or similar?
And, surely, we are well-placed if we pass this hand, at least most of the time?
If I opened 1♦ in 3rd chair and saw partner bid 2♥ over a 2♣ intervention, I would expect a 9 - 11 count with 5 hearts, and I would bid accordingly.
Anyone who bids 2♥ here doesn't deserve a partner, imo. As josh implied, why are we so sure that defending 2♣, when partner has to pass, is all bad?
We hold a 6 count, including the (probably) wasted club Queen. Partner probably has values, yet didn't open 1N. Would any of us be surprised to see partner with a good 4=1=4=4 or similar?
And, surely, we are well-placed if we pass this hand, at least most of the time?
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