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We have to pass. I'm not happy.
Pard will frequently have a weak NT, or possibly an 18-19, with 3-4 clubs and will pass with both. With the former, we should be competing for the part score. With the latter, we might be missing the game.
I don't see a solution. Playing garbage multi, we would have been in the auction already, but thats not really an answer here.
you do or you don't
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Posted 2008-March-21, 10:51
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Posted 2008-March-21, 12:29
I doubled and my partner ended up playing 2SX in a 3-3 fit. Sorry partner!
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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Posted 2008-March-21, 12:37
han, on Mar 21 2008, 01:29 PM, said:
I doubled and my partner ended up playing 2SX in a 3-3 fit. Sorry partner!
Partner was 3253?
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Posted 2008-March-21, 12:46
No, 3-2-4-4.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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Posted 2008-March-21, 14:24
han, on Mar 21 2008, 01:46 PM, said:
No, 3-2-4-4.
KJx Ax Kxxx Jxxx
jdonn, on Mar 20 2008, 02:42 PM, said:
mikeh, on Mar 20 2008, 02:33 PM, said:
2♠
May be ugly. May be a silly 3-3 fit, but it won't be -670
May be ugly. May be a silly 3-3 fit, but it won't be -670
Yesterday my 3-3 fit for the day on the two level was -1100
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Posted 2008-March-21, 14:30
pclayton, on Mar 22 2008, 05:51 AM, said:
We have to pass. I'm not happy.
Pard will frequently have a weak NT, or possibly an 18-19, with 3-4 clubs and will pass with both. With the former, we should be competing for the part score. With the latter, we might be missing the game.
I don't see a solution. Playing garbage multi, we would have been in the auction already, but thats not really an answer here.
Pard will frequently have a weak NT, or possibly an 18-19, with 3-4 clubs and will pass with both. With the former, we should be competing for the part score. With the latter, we might be missing the game.
I don't see a solution. Playing garbage multi, we would have been in the auction already, but thats not really an answer here.
This is why I play negative free bids. So that I can make a sensible bid immediately with these hands with some potential.
This is very much minimum for our negative free-bids with the stiff ♣ Q although ♦ Jxx might be well fitting with partner. I can't see how you can bid 2♥ playing standard methods when partner expects a decent hand. Even if it worked out this time I would not be happy with a partner who bid 2♥ here as I will not know what he has next time he makes a free-bid.
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I believe that the USA currently hold only the World Championship For People Who Still Bid Like Your Auntie Gladys - dburn
dunno how to play 4 card majors - JLOGIC
True but I know Standard American and what better reason could I have for playing Precision? - Hideous Hog
Bidding is an estimation of probabilities SJ Simon
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Posted 2008-March-21, 14:34
jdonn, on Mar 21 2008, 03:24 PM, said:
han, on Mar 21 2008, 01:46 PM, said:
No, 3-2-4-4.
KJx Ax Kxxx Jxxx or something
So, it was a borderline opening bid! :-)
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Posted 2008-March-21, 15:55
TimG, on Mar 21 2008, 03:34 PM, said:
jdonn, on Mar 21 2008, 03:24 PM, said:
han, on Mar 21 2008, 01:46 PM, said:
No, 3-2-4-4.
KJx Ax Kxxx Jxxx or something
So, it was a borderline opening bid! :-)
you =cannot= open this hand!
This is =imps= and you open with JT QJxxx KJxx Kx. In =imps= we are trying to make =games= and avoid going for numbers. NOTHING ELSE MATTERS. How, when your initial action is so light (as light as mike777) can you open in third seat at =imps=? Sure, if you open very sound in first seat (like mike777) you open =light= in third seat at imps since you =might= have game, but GOP =cannot= have a good hand here so we =cannot= have game so there is NO REASON to open.
Mathematically, opening will lead to a net loss of .74 imps a board. I used complex =string= theory to solve this problem. You =cannot= argue with math. But even if you want to =try= my simulation backed up my conclusions over 1 million hands.
The blame here from opening this hand in third seat at =imps=
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Posted 2008-March-21, 16:06
You are going to get me FIRED pard if they hear me laughing like this.
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