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could I have done better than 2 hearts
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Posted 2008-March-12, 02:48
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Posted 2008-March-12, 02:51
2♥ shows 6+ hearts and a minimum opener (like 11-15 or so)
2♦ shows 5+♥, 4+♦, unclear range (~11-18).
The second bid fits your hand much better
2♦ shows 5+♥, 4+♦, unclear range (~11-18).
The second bid fits your hand much better
... and I can prove it with my usual, flawless logic.
George Carlin
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Posted 2008-March-12, 03:38
It is an ongoing debatte what is better:
Some prefer to show the 6. major card
In polish club your rebid depends on the overall strength, with a weak hand, you rebid your major, else you show your minor.
I prefer the way Csaba mentioned: Show your shape as often as possible.
Some prefer to show the 6. major card
In polish club your rebid depends on the overall strength, with a weak hand, you rebid your major, else you show your minor.
I prefer the way Csaba mentioned: Show your shape as often as possible.
Kind Regards
Roland
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Posted 2008-March-12, 04:02
I'm for 2♦.
Actually curiously I am for 2♦ on both hands.
With 15 points responder has no reason not to bid his longest suit first.
1♥ 2♦
3♠ ...
where 3♠ is a splinter should lead to slam somewhere.
Actually curiously I am for 2♦ on both hands.
With 15 points responder has no reason not to bid his longest suit first.
1♥ 2♦
3♠ ...
where 3♠ is a splinter should lead to slam somewhere.
Wayne Burrows
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I believe that the USA currently hold only the World Championship For People Who Still Bid Like Your Auntie Gladys - dburn
dunno how to play 4 card majors - JLOGIC
True but I know Standard American and what better reason could I have for playing Precision? - Hideous Hog
Bidding is an estimation of probabilities SJ Simon
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Posted 2008-March-12, 04:59
Cascade, on Mar 12 2008, 12:02 PM, said:
I'm for 2♦.
Actually curiously I am for 2♦ on both hands.
With 15 points responder has no reason not to bid his longest suit first.
1♥ 2♦
3♠ ...
where 3♠ is a splinter should lead to slam somewhere.
Actually curiously I am for 2♦ on both hands.
With 15 points responder has no reason not to bid his longest suit first.
1♥ 2♦
3♠ ...
where 3♠ is a splinter should lead to slam somewhere.
Yes I didn't look at the N hand properly. 2♦ is very very obvious on the N hand.
... and I can prove it with my usual, flawless logic.
George Carlin
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Posted 2008-March-12, 05:32
gwnn, on Mar 12 2008, 07:59 PM, said:
Cascade, on Mar 12 2008, 12:02 PM, said:
I'm for 2♦.
Actually curiously I am for 2♦ on both hands.
With 15 points responder has no reason not to bid his longest suit first.
1♥ 2♦
3♠ ...
where 3♠ is a splinter should lead to slam somewhere.
Actually curiously I am for 2♦ on both hands.
With 15 points responder has no reason not to bid his longest suit first.
1♥ 2♦
3♠ ...
where 3♠ is a splinter should lead to slam somewhere.
Yes I didn't look at the N hand properly. 2♦ is very very obvious on the N hand.
yeah...
Kind Regards
Roland
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Posted 2008-March-12, 05:38
Some sources advocate that if you are minimum, you should rebid your 6 card suit beofre showing your 4 card suit (because it keeps the auction lower) and with extras, you rebid your 4 card suit before "reversing" back into your 6 card suit.
The difference between theory and practice is that in theory, there is no difference between theory and practice, but in practice, there is.
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Posted 2008-March-12, 09:39
2D is the right bid.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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Posted 2008-March-12, 10:58
han, on Mar 12 2008, 09:39 AM, said:
2D is the right bid.
I agree. I agree.
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Posted 2008-March-12, 13:40
han, on Mar 12 2008, 11:39 AM, said:
2D is the right bid.
on both hands
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Posted 2008-March-13, 09:26
2D could even be bid with 6H and 3D (in imps) with a hand that is too strong for 2H and with H too bad for 3H. Some will disagree but its expert standard.
From Psych "I mean, Gus and I never see eye-to-eye on work stuff.
For instance, he doesn't like being used as a human shield when we're being shot at.
I happen to think it's a very noble way to meet one's maker, especially for a guy like him.
Bottom line is we never let that difference of opinion interfere with anything."
For instance, he doesn't like being used as a human shield when we're being shot at.
I happen to think it's a very noble way to meet one's maker, especially for a guy like him.
Bottom line is we never let that difference of opinion interfere with anything."
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Posted 2008-March-13, 11:13
benlessard, on Mar 14 2008, 12:26 AM, said:
2D could even be bid with 6H and 3D (in imps) with a hand that is too strong for 2H and with H too bad for 3H. Some will disagree but its expert standard.
It is not standard over here.
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Roland
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Posted 2008-March-13, 11:20
Hi,
rebidding your 6 carder instead of showing
your 2nd suit a 4 carder is an question of style.
Now the question is 2H or 3H, and the answer
to that one is 3H, at least for me.
Sry, the high quality of the hearts suit is enough
compensation for any missing high card power.
And after a 3H bid, your partner wont stop below 6H.
With kind regards
Marlowe
rebidding your 6 carder instead of showing
your 2nd suit a 4 carder is an question of style.
Now the question is 2H or 3H, and the answer
to that one is 3H, at least for me.
Sry, the high quality of the hearts suit is enough
compensation for any missing high card power.
And after a 3H bid, your partner wont stop below 6H.
With kind regards
Marlowe
With kind regards
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
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Posted 2008-March-13, 12:47
brianshark, on Mar 12 2008, 06:38 AM, said:
Some sources advocate that if you are minimum, you should rebid your 6 card suit beofre showing your 4 card suit (because it keeps the auction lower) and with extras, you rebid your 4 card suit before "reversing" back into your 6 card suit.
This is a fairly standard way of distinguishing between a "good" 6-4 and a "minimum" 6-4.
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Posted 2008-March-13, 12:53
2♦ wtp
It is not because things are difficult that we do not dare, it is because we do not dare that they are difficult.
Bridge should be fun!
SHAPE!
"And no matter what methods you play, it is essential, for anyone aspiring to learn to be a good player, to learn the importance of bidding shape properly." (MH)
Bridge should be fun!
SHAPE!
"And no matter what methods you play, it is essential, for anyone aspiring to learn to be a good player, to learn the importance of bidding shape properly." (MH)
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