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KQ9xxxxx=x=xx=xx
I did open this hand 4S at MP's. 2nd hand and Vul against not.
- You agree?
- Probably worst situation to open 4S or maybe IMP's would be worse?
- When is this good enough to open 4S (always when Not Vul, always in 3rd hand, 1st and 3rd hand at MP's...)?
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Koen
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KQ9xxxxx=x=xx=xx When is this good enough to open 4S?
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Posted 2008-March-12, 16:12
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Posted 2008-March-12, 16:17
Agree that I wouldn't do it red against white but that's about the only thing that can keep me from opening 4S.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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Posted 2008-March-12, 16:26
4♠ any time, baby
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Posted 2008-March-12, 17:14
4♠ in my opinion regardless of who is red or black or green.
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Posted 2008-March-12, 17:25
looks like a 3♠ opening in 2nd at red, otherwise 4.
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Posted 2008-March-12, 17:44
red / white I'm not doing it. Just too easy for x - float.
I'll do it any other time.
I'll do it any other time.
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Posted 2008-March-12, 18:53
pclayton, on Mar 13 2008, 06:44 AM, said:
red / white I'm not doing it. Just too easy for x - float.
I'll do it any other time.
I'll do it any other time.
Agree with Phil.
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Posted 2008-March-12, 20:25
3 red, 4 white pretty much.
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Posted 2008-March-12, 20:34
Agree with 'only 3 red/white'. In fact if forced to choose I would sooner bid 3 all the time than 4 all the time.
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Posted 2008-March-12, 20:53
Agree with 'only 3 red/white'. But for me, if forced to choose I would bid 4 all the time rather than 3 at any other vul.
That's impossible. No one can give more than one hundred percent. By definition that is the most anyone can give.
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Posted 2008-March-12, 22:14
Its not close to a 4♠ for me.
I don't even think it is maximum for 3♠ but that is what I would do.
I don't even think it is maximum for 3♠ but that is what I would do.
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Posted 2008-March-13, 03:42
kgr, on Mar 12 2008, 11:12 PM, said:
- Probably worst situation to open 4S or maybe IMP's would be worse?
It's more dangerous at matchpoints than at IMPs. However, that wouldn't stop me opening 4♠ on this.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2008-March-13, 18:03
Thanks for the answers. I opened 4S with this hand, but didn't feel comfortable with this bid. Next time I'll probably bid less when Red.
x=Kxxxx=xxx=KJxx
vs
KQ9xxxxx=x=xx=xx
Bidding did go:
(P)-4S-(DBL)-All Pass
LHO had 4 aces and most of the other points. I was able to make ♣K, but LHO had singleton ♠A. 4♠x -3 was almost a 0%.
x=Kxxxx=xxx=KJxx
vs
KQ9xxxxx=x=xx=xx
Bidding did go:
(P)-4S-(DBL)-All Pass
LHO had 4 aces and most of the other points. I was able to make ♣K, but LHO had singleton ♠A. 4♠x -3 was almost a 0%.
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Posted 2008-March-14, 07:49
No, 3S red. vs. green is enough.
At any other vulnerability, we can talk about 4S, but
it depends on partnership agreement.
The classical definition of a vulnerable preempt is at most
-2 b, hence you would also open this hand 3S, if all were
vulnerable.
Know your agreements and you know what you open.
With kind regards
Marlowe
At any other vulnerability, we can talk about 4S, but
it depends on partnership agreement.
The classical definition of a vulnerable preempt is at most
-2 b, hence you would also open this hand 3S, if all were
vulnerable.
Know your agreements and you know what you open.
With kind regards
Marlowe
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Posted 2008-March-15, 09:57
Wouldn't open this 4S red vs green, would open 3S.
White vs red 1st/3rd seat is probably fine, maybe 2nd depending on the state of affairs.
Incidentally one of my partner opened 4H with AT987xx in hearts and nothing else outside white vs red 1st seat before.
White vs red 1st/3rd seat is probably fine, maybe 2nd depending on the state of affairs.
Incidentally one of my partner opened 4H with AT987xx in hearts and nothing else outside white vs red 1st seat before.
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Posted 2008-March-15, 18:30
Red vs W this is a 3 level preempt Both in imps and in mp you dont want to see partner bid 4S over 4H so often so i would consider to bid 4 directly a really bad mistake. To overbid by 3 trick RvsW clearly doesnt make any sense in any position
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