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Posted 2008-March-10, 03:29
Wayne Burrows
I believe that the USA currently hold only the World Championship For People Who Still Bid Like Your Auntie Gladys - dburn
dunno how to play 4 card majors - JLOGIC
True but I know Standard American and what better reason could I have for playing Precision? - Hideous Hog
Bidding is an estimation of probabilities SJ Simon
I believe that the USA currently hold only the World Championship For People Who Still Bid Like Your Auntie Gladys - dburn
dunno how to play 4 card majors - JLOGIC
True but I know Standard American and what better reason could I have for playing Precision? - Hideous Hog
Bidding is an estimation of probabilities SJ Simon
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Posted 2008-March-10, 03:50
5S
"The King of Hearts a broadsword bears, the Queen of Hearts a rose." W. H. Auden.
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Posted 2008-March-10, 03:57
Pass (forcing, I hope) and pull double to 5♠ or raise 5♠ to 6♠.
Not sure what pass and pull to 5♥ really says.
As a meta-rule, I like passes to be forcing after the opps have preempted, we have bid game, the opps have bid over it, and they are not unfavorable. I like to play more forcing passes than most people though.
Not sure what pass and pull to 5♥ really says.
As a meta-rule, I like passes to be forcing after the opps have preempted, we have bid game, the opps have bid over it, and they are not unfavorable. I like to play more forcing passes than most people though.
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Posted 2008-March-10, 04:32
5S. Pass is not forcing.
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Posted 2008-March-10, 05:10
We certainly do not play forcing passes when we have been pushed around this much.
Wayne Burrows
I believe that the USA currently hold only the World Championship For People Who Still Bid Like Your Auntie Gladys - dburn
dunno how to play 4 card majors - JLOGIC
True but I know Standard American and what better reason could I have for playing Precision? - Hideous Hog
Bidding is an estimation of probabilities SJ Simon
I believe that the USA currently hold only the World Championship For People Who Still Bid Like Your Auntie Gladys - dburn
dunno how to play 4 card majors - JLOGIC
True but I know Standard American and what better reason could I have for playing Precision? - Hideous Hog
Bidding is an estimation of probabilities SJ Simon
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Posted 2008-March-10, 05:15
I'll bid 5♥. Hope pard understands this is some sort of slam try... if not, oh well. I can always bid 6♠ if all else fails. Maybe it makes.. lol.
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Posted 2008-March-10, 05:19
I feel like the logic behind not playing a forcing pass here (and anywhere) is so that your choices do not get reduced to either going -550 or -500.
How can that possibly be the case here? 5♠x-3 is incredibly unlikely; we will hold at least 20 hands that want a forcing pass for every hand that is going down 3 in 5♠ with 5♦ making.
Given just the auction and vulnerability, what percentage of the time do you think the 5♦ bidder is bidding to make? What percentage of the time do you think the 4♠ bidder has done it on such cheese that he is not at least sawing off 5♦ anyway? It is not like it went 1♠-2♦-4♠-5♦.
How can that possibly be the case here? 5♠x-3 is incredibly unlikely; we will hold at least 20 hands that want a forcing pass for every hand that is going down 3 in 5♠ with 5♦ making.
Given just the auction and vulnerability, what percentage of the time do you think the 5♦ bidder is bidding to make? What percentage of the time do you think the 4♠ bidder has done it on such cheese that he is not at least sawing off 5♦ anyway? It is not like it went 1♠-2♦-4♠-5♦.
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