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#21 User is offline   ArtK78 

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Posted 2008-March-12, 13:44

In my opinion, 4NT was natural.

4 should be RKCB for clubs.

As to what to do over 4, I can't argue with jumping to slam or bidding 4 first, regardless of what your agreement (or lack thereof) is as to the meaning of 4. 4NT really doesn't help much, and it seems to me that you want to play this hand in clubs, as partner should have at least 6 (or a good 5) to introduce the suit at this level. Even if partner interprets 4NT as natural, it doesn't show this good of a hand.

By the way, how did partner intend 4NT? Quite frankly, I can't tell by looking at his hand.
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Posted 2008-March-12, 14:53

pclayton, on Mar 12 2008, 10:32 PM, said:

Any reason why you didn't preempt with the West hand?

If youre 2nd seat, I understand, but I hope you don't start babbling about mixed strategy Richard :rolleyes:

As Tim points out, I was red and they were white

Doesn't look like a 2nd seat vulnerable 3m preempt
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Posted 2008-March-12, 14:55

I think east should bid 6 without having firm agreements. Just be practical.

For what I think things should mean, 4NT natural, 4 strong club raise, no keycard.
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Posted 2008-March-12, 15:13

hrothgar, on Mar 12 2008, 12:53 PM, said:

pclayton, on Mar 12 2008, 10:32 PM, said:

Any reason why you didn't preempt with the West hand?

If youre 2nd seat, I understand, but I hope you don't start babbling about mixed strategy Richard :rolleyes:

As Tim points out, I was red and they were white

Doesn't look like a 2nd seat vulnerable 3m preempt

OK. You didn't mention vulnerability. Its why I asked.
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Posted 2008-March-12, 15:55

TimG, on Mar 13 2008, 08:29 AM, said:

Cascade, on Mar 12 2008, 01:51 PM, said:

I might bid 6 rather than 4NT with your partner's hand.  You have competed with 4 so you will have something.

Could that something be x xx AJxx ATxxxx?

No I would bid 5 with that.
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Posted 2008-March-12, 15:57

Oh by the way ...

I think 4NT is natural. This comes straight from the school that thinks if it can be natural it is natural. (Assuming no explicit discussion).
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Posted 2008-March-13, 03:46

Cascade, on Mar 12 2008, 10:55 PM, said:

TimG, on Mar 13 2008, 08:29 AM, said:

Cascade, on Mar 12 2008, 01:51 PM, said:

I might bid 6 rather than 4NT with your partner's hand.  You have competed with 4 so you will have something.

Could that something be x xx AJxx ATxxxx?

No I would bid 5 with that.

I would have bid 1 with that, even in second.
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Posted 2008-March-13, 06:29

E's hand may be too good for a simple 4N unless you have the explicit agreement that 4N here is Asking.

Better may be for E to cuebid 4S with that moose.
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Posted 2008-March-13, 11:11

gnasher, on Mar 13 2008, 10:46 PM, said:

Cascade, on Mar 12 2008, 10:55 PM, said:

TimG, on Mar 13 2008, 08:29 AM, said:

Cascade, on Mar 12 2008, 01:51 PM, said:

I might bid 6 rather than 4NT with your partner's hand.  You have competed with 4 so you will have something.

Could that something be x xx AJxx ATxxxx?

No I would bid 5 with that.

I would have bid 1 with that, even in second.

I might at favourable but wouldn't vulnerable and probably not nil vulnerable.
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