joshs, on Feb 26 2008, 06:37 PM, said:
The result of this is thats its terribly ineffiecent to play 1C as 15+ in this situation.
I agree that playing a 15+ club and game-forcing positives will be inefficient since the GF responses by a PH are so rare when you open light. However, perhaps the conclusion to draw is not that a 15+ club is a bad idea, but that GF positives are a bad idea in this situation?
jtfanclub, on Feb 28 2008, 10:11 AM, said:
Why not go the other direction?
Take the 1 club opener show 15+, and have there be no positive responses.
1 diamond, 1 heart, 1NT, and 2 clubs are all transfers to the next suit, 1 spade is a transfer to NT. Opener accepts with 15-20, jump accepts or bids NT with 21+, and shows his own suit with a misfit.
Nothing shocking or new, except to do it on third seat only.
Take the 1 club opener show 15+, and have there be no positive responses.
1 diamond, 1 heart, 1NT, and 2 clubs are all transfers to the next suit, 1 spade is a transfer to NT. Opener accepts with 15-20, jump accepts or bids NT with 21+, and shows his own suit with a misfit.
Nothing shocking or new, except to do it on third seat only.
I think this might be a more reasonable approach to this problem if you value preemption in 3rd seat. Depending on your strong club methods you might not even need to change the meanings of most first responses, just lower the value ranges (1♦ negative 0-4, 1♥+ 5-9). Of course you'd need to face the issue that instead of having a relay or natural GF auction after a 1♣ positive, now you need to have invitations and ways to stop below game. It would require a little more clarification, but could still be a good approach.

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