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one suit combination Wich 1 of these is boring ?

#1 User is offline   benlessard 

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Posted 2008-February-19, 02:18

plenty of communications.

West play a low and east put up the A.

Dummy(north) to play may or may not have plenty of communication.

--edited, North hand has no entry or unsure entry but maybe south is short of entry. So can declarer start the suit from north if so what happens ?
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Posted 2008-February-19, 04:28

Combo 1 leads the 10 and runs it, to smoother the singleton 9 in RHO :) Saw Helgemo doing that once, with absolutely no clues from the bidding nor any apparent motivation from the other suits. He must have taken a peek at RHO :)
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Posted 2008-February-19, 05:11

whereagles, on Feb 19 2008, 05:28 AM, said:

Combo 1 leads the 10 and runs it, to smoother the singleton 9 in RHO :) Saw Helgemo doing that once, with absolutely no clues from the bidding nor any apparent motivation from the other suits. He must have taken a peek at RHO :P

Maybe he need 5 tricks from the suit?

Run the T is the safest way for 5, no? It makes 5 any time it is possible to do so. Running into QJxx opposite 9 is just a bonus.

My normal way to play is low to the A and back covering assuming nothing interesting has happened. If an honor drops than you can go for 6 tricks by playing for QJ tight or go for maximum tricks by finessing the T if an honor fell on first round and wasn't played by RHO on second.

Hence, an interesting combination.

On the second combo I'm not playing the Q on the second trick.

On the third I think I just play x at the board and, assuming A ducks, play the T on trick 2. But where is the 9; I think I need it in dummy for this to work?
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Posted 2008-February-22, 00:53

Was expecting more action on this post :)

Ax
Kt876x

every 3-2 break is 1 loser except QJ--xxx
Running the T will work if east or west had the stiff 9.

Ace followed by small to the T will work when Q or J is stiff.
So these are equals except that by running the T you will lose a trick if qj--xxx

So when East has showned more card (hes more likely to have a stiff) you should run the T. hoping for QJxx---9. When west has showned more card (more likely to have a stiff) you should play A hoping for H-----Hxxx.

9xx
QTx

If HJx---Hxx you are dead anyway.
If xxx---AKJ you win no matter what you do.
so only Hxx----HJx & Jxx---AKx matters

Hxx--HJx is twice as likely then Jxx---AKx

When LHO lead a low x...A RHO will probably play A with AKx to fool you. But you can counter this falsecard by one of your own. Falsecard with the T at trick 1. RHO will think twice before continuing low with AKx. If west can give count with is lead the falsecard might not work if RHO is quick on his feet. (this is from "falsecard" by Mike Lawrence)

Here when dummy play K east has to give the opposite count to induce partner to take the 1st trick. So 8 with standard and 2 playing UDCA.
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Posted 2008-February-22, 01:59

benlessard, on Feb 22 2008, 01:53 AM, said:

Ax
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every 3-2 break is 1 loser except QJ--xxx
Running the T will work if east or west had the stiff 9.

Ace followed by small to the T will work when Q or J is stiff.
So these are equals except that by running the T you will lose a trick if qj--xxx

So when East has showned more card (hes more likely to have a stiff) you should run the T. hoping for QJxx---9. When west has showned more card (more likely to have a stiff) you should play A hoping for  H-----Hxxx.

Not sure if I understand what you are saying about this one.

If we need all the tricks, we must bang down AK and hope for QJ doubleton.

If we can afford 1 loser, then it's always right to start with the T. If west follows small, we'll let it ride and hope to have pinned the singleton 9. If west plays Q, J or 9, we'll rise with the A and play small to the 8 to catch east's HHxx or H9xx.
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Posted 2008-February-22, 07:26

Yes your right riding the T work even if LHO have Q or J stiff. So riding the T is a much better play. Often we make a play that is better but we dont realized how good it is :P

This is because when I see that what I get is better then the other way I double check just to make sure that the stiff 9 is working and that the stiff 9 on both ways is at least better the stiff Q+J in LHO if RHO showed lenght in other suits.

I consider this 1 a very frequent combination. But like most card combination its better to calculate each time instead of learning them by heart.
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Posted 2008-February-22, 08:58

The first is a well-known suit combination. It's not 'magic' that Helgemo did it once, it's simply the percentage play in the suit.

The second one is a nice falscard.

The third I don't see the point of. Since when does anyone believe any form of count signal given on a hand like this?
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Posted 2008-February-22, 10:20

Remind me to falsecard with the 9 when I hold QJ9x as West here.

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Posted 2008-February-22, 23:07

KQTxxx
on dummy and no sure entry East has to give count for sure.


Not ducking the A will established the suit if declarer has the Jx


Ducking the A might give the 9th trick.




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For instance, he doesn't like being used as a human shield when we're being shot at.
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Bottom line is we never let that difference of opinion interfere with anything."
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