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Your lead? Which is likely to be better against 3nt when leading into declarer's unbid suits. Away from an ace or king? Add why?
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Lead from and ace or king against 3nt
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Posted 2008-February-02, 13:02
Your lead? Which is likely to be better against 3nt when leading into declarer's unbid suits. Away from an ace or king? Add why?
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Posted 2008-February-02, 13:17
Ten of clubs. Ace of diamonds can be used later as entry, T9 of clubs adds a lot of extra chances, etc.
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Posted 2008-February-02, 13:32
I was always told that leading away from a king is safer than away from an ace. The higher the honour, the bigger the chance that leading away from it costs an opportunity to capture a lower honour that is with declarer. Very superficial analysis I know but I suppose there is some truth in it anyway.
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Posted 2008-February-02, 14:03
The general recommendation is to
lead from the suit not headed by the
Ace, ... to have an sure entry.
With kind regards
Marlowe
lead from the suit not headed by the
Ace, ... to have an sure entry.
With kind regards
Marlowe
With kind regards
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Posted 2008-February-02, 14:38
Edgar Kaplan said leading away from the ace is superior even though its counter-intuitive. My personal experience isn't broad enough to offer an opinion.
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Posted 2008-February-02, 16:43
I'd lead the ♣T without much thought. There's so many possible ways for this to be right. And the ♦A is a sure entry.
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Posted 2008-February-02, 16:50
I did a some simulations of leads versus 3NT on the auction 1NT 3NT a couple of years ago.
In those simulations leading from Axxx was a loser (on average it lost IMPs compared to some alternative) as was leading from K10xx (I didn't distinguish the 9). Axxx was a bigger loser than K10xx.
Kxxx was better than K10xx.
This doesn't come close to answering the question of what the best lead is but I have used this information as a rough guide on what to lead in unbid suits.
In those simulations leading from Axxx was a loser (on average it lost IMPs compared to some alternative) as was leading from K10xx (I didn't distinguish the 9). Axxx was a bigger loser than K10xx.
Kxxx was better than K10xx.
This doesn't come close to answering the question of what the best lead is but I have used this information as a rough guide on what to lead in unbid suits.
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Posted 2008-February-02, 16:52
I think KT9x is clearly different from Kxxx and A987 is clearly different than Axxx.
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Posted 2008-February-02, 17:35
Looks like declarer has something like 4144 or 51(43) with weak spades, void ♥ is a possibility too. I think to start passive. Lead ♥.
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Posted 2008-February-03, 02:53
Indeed. I would also place pard with 5+ hearts and lead one.
Of course, whenever I do this, dummy shows up with AKJTxx... lol. So perhaps pard should DOUBLE if he wants a heart lead?
Of course, whenever I do this, dummy shows up with AKJTxx... lol. So perhaps pard should DOUBLE if he wants a heart lead?
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Posted 2008-February-03, 04:17
whereagles, on Feb 3 2008, 10:53 AM, said:
Indeed. I would also place pard with 5+ hearts and lead one.
Of course, whenever I do this, dummy shows up with AKJTxx... lol. So perhaps pard should DOUBLE if he wants a heart lead?
Of course, whenever I do this, dummy shows up with AKJTxx... lol. So perhaps pard should DOUBLE if he wants a heart lead?
To double? If the bidding goes 1H-1S-2H-2NT-3NT, then maybe, but opps may have 30 hcp now. And AKJ10xx isn't so dangeraous (partner will has Q9xxx).
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Posted 2008-February-03, 04:47
♣10. On choices like this one, I pick the holding that takes the least in partner's hand to fill it out. Either could be right (or wrong) but a consistent approach allows partner to draw inferences on defense.
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Posted 2008-February-03, 16:30
skorchev, on Feb 3 2008, 10:17 AM, said:
whereagles, on Feb 3 2008, 10:53 AM, said:
Indeed. I would also place pard with 5+ hearts and lead one.
Of course, whenever I do this, dummy shows up with AKJTxx... lol. So perhaps pard should DOUBLE if he wants a heart lead?
Of course, whenever I do this, dummy shows up with AKJTxx... lol. So perhaps pard should DOUBLE if he wants a heart lead?
To double? If the bidding goes 1H-1S-2H-2NT-3NT, then maybe, but opps may have 30 hcp now. And AKJ10xx isn't so dangeraous (partner will has Q9xxx).
Well, it's more complicated than that, but yeah, in general you're right that you can't read much from pard's failure to dbl.
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