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Pearson Points?

Poll: How do you feel? (56 member(s) have cast votes)

How do you feel?

  1. It is stupid, and I never use it as a guideline. (8 votes [14.29%])

    Percentage of vote: 14.29%

  2. I use it as a vague guideline for opening. (35 votes [62.50%])

    Percentage of vote: 62.50%

  3. It is a very important criterion for me. (13 votes [23.21%])

    Percentage of vote: 23.21%

  4. I follow it religiously. (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#1 User is offline   rogerclee 

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Posted 2008-January-29, 22:25

In general, how do you feel about opening hands in fourth seat based on Pearson points (HCP + spades, open if at least 15)?
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Posted 2008-January-29, 22:29

Between (2) and (3) - more than a vague guideline, but just 'important' instead of 'very important'.
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That's impossible. No one can give more than one hundred percent. By definition that is the most anyone can give.
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Posted 2008-January-29, 23:09

Vague guideline.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2008-January-29, 23:36

I do actually follow it, but you need to add the caveat that if you would open in 1st/2nd seat, you should open. Pearson points are good for deciding whether to open a borderline hand in 4th chair (like say a balanced 11-count). They are not a reason to pass an obvious opening bid.
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Posted 2008-January-29, 23:44

awm, on Jan 30 2008, 12:36 AM, said:

I do actually follow it, but you need to add the caveat that if you would open in 1st/2nd seat, you should open. Pearson points are good for deciding whether to open a borderline hand in 4th chair (like say a balanced 11-count). They are not a reason to pass an obvious opening bid.

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Posted 2008-January-29, 23:52

awm, on Jan 30 2008, 05:36 AM, said:

I do actually follow it, but you need to add the caveat that if you would open in 1st/2nd seat, you should open. Pearson points are good for deciding whether to open a borderline hand in 4th chair (like say a balanced 11-count). They are not a reason to pass an obvious opening bid.

Spot on. Pearson points should be used to determine whether a hand you would pass as dealer should be opened in fourth seat.
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Posted 2008-January-30, 01:25

See this long thread on pearson points... it includes some data just for fun.

Somewhere between your first two choices right, but I tend to ignore them completely now...
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Posted 2008-January-30, 02:05

very surprised with comments so far.

If playing lite openers I play it 97=99%+ 14 Pearson i pass...

If playing super sound openers..it still works...just remember pard passes 13 hcp often. So open with less pearson.
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Posted 2008-January-30, 02:08

http://forums.bridge...showtopic=13703
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Posted 2008-January-30, 11:40

I think the lack of usefulness of Pearson Points for 4th hand opening is not so much attributed to the unimportance of a lack of spades, but an overimportance to the advantage of the opening bid. Especially in hands where the HCP are closely divided.
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Posted 2008-January-30, 15:21

gwnn, on Jan 30 2008, 03:08 AM, said:

http://forums.bridge...showtopic=13703

heh...I was actually a useful poster once upon a time, go figure B) I agree with everything I said in this post.
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Posted 2008-January-31, 11:08

I use Pearson Points as a vague guideline on borderline hands.
My experience is that on those hand I pass out I score 65%+ on average. I really don't know why.
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Posted 2008-January-31, 11:10

skaeran, on Jan 31 2008, 07:08 PM, said:

I use Pearson Points as a vague guideline on borderline hands.
My experience is that on those hand I pass out I score 65%+ on average. I really don't know why.

Maybe because you open more lightly than most and when you pass, the opps rate to have 23 hcp between them?
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