[rogerclee]

Assess blame for missing game (if you think anyone is at fault).

Scoring: IMP

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Auction:

1♥-(2♦)-x-(P)
2♥-AP

Makes 5 when it's ♦A+♠K on and 2-2♥, with ♠J off.

[mike777]

North 100%...what is your system?

[awm]

I think south should bid on. The diamond king is very well placed, and it's more than 50-50 that a spade honor is onside as well. South should upgrade for these things.

Obviously there is some style issue if you regularly open 10-counts with six hearts, in that opener's 2♥ rebid becomes rather wide ranging.

[jdonn]

I blame north more. South could have bid again but north has a lot of tricks to just bid 2♥.

[grrigg]

North had to bid more than 2♥, this bid can be made on any minimal hand and doesnt promise 6 hearts. I am not sure I truly want to make a move with South's hand (I guess it depends a bit on what you open). Have to bid at least 3♥, maybe 4 if you are feeling lucky.

PS Deleted original reply because I thought North had 8 hearts.

[rogerclee]

grrigg, on Jan 28 2008, 02:35 AM, said:

North's Hand has chances to make 4♥ against very little help from partner. I dont know how many people would just open 4♥ but if you dont its mostly not to miss a slam. Now that partner made a positive noise you definitely just want to bid 4♥ and be happy. At any rate 2♥ is just way too little. The blame is 99% on North.

Would you really rebid 4♥? I imagine 3♥ is enough (which S would obviously raise to game).

[CSGibson]

Both were conservative, but I think N should find a 3 heart call. 2 hearts in this auction can occur on 5 hearts with a 2-5-3-3 minimum, among other hands, so South's inaction is at least understandable if unduly pessimistic.

[grrigg]

rogerclee, on Jan 28 2008, 02:38 AM, said:

grrigg, on Jan 28 2008, 02:35 AM, said:

North's Hand has chances to make 4♥ against very little help from partner. I dont know how many people would just open 4♥ but if you dont its mostly not to miss a slam. Now that partner made a positive noise you definitely just want to bid 4♥ and be happy. At any rate 2♥ is just way too little. The blame is 99% on North.

Would you really rebid 4♥? I imagine 3♥ is enough (which S would obviously raise to game).

For some reason I saw ♥8 as 2 cards sorry So scratch what I said about opening 4♥. However 2♥ is a huge underbid and I am much much closer to bidding 4♥ than 2.

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

The auction looks reasonable, so my
answer would be noone.

If someone should have done more, it
would be South.
But I would say it is close, and it depends
to a large degree, how weak a hand could
be and still make a neg. X.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[whereagles]

Obvious 4♥ rebid by North.

[FrancesHinden]

I think this is actually quite tough.

A 4H rebid by North is a silly overbid. 3H is reasonable.

[655321]

I like a 4♥ rebid by North.

2♥ is not enough, 3♥ shows a different hand (more HCP, typically 6 hearts only), and a strong hand can go via 3♦.
4♥ should just show a bunch of playing tricks, not enough HCP to bid 3♥, but a hand willing to try to make a game opposite a responder who could scrape up a negative double.

[whereagles]

FrancesHinden, on Jan 28 2008, 11:53 AM, said:

I think this is actually quite tough.

A 4H rebid by North is a silly overbid. 3H is reasonable.

Contradiction: if 4H is silly and 3H is normal, then this isn't tough at all

In any case, 4H isn't silly. It's practical. 3H is the unlucky expert bid.

[lilboyman]

I think both erred. 2H opposite a 2 level neg double is an underbid by N. S has a 7 loser hand opposite an opening hand and should raise to game over 2 H. If the N rebid does not promise 6 Hearts in your agreements then 3 H by S would be ok and N then should raise to game.

[P_Marlowe]

lilboyman, on Jan 28 2008, 09:03 AM, said:

I think both erred.  2H opposite a 2 level neg double is an underbid by N.  S has a 7 loser hand opposite an opening hand and should raise to game over 2 H.  If the N rebid does not promise 6 Hearts in your agreements then 3 H by S would be ok and N then should raise to game.

Just a simple remark:
Even if 2H by North showed a 6 card suit, and
I would disagree with this claim, South should
not raise 2H to 4H, just because he holds a 7
looser hand.

South only knows about a 6-2 fit, and if Souths
wants to use the LTC, he should add a looser,
because the quality of the fit is not good enough
to use the LTC without adjustments.
And I dont see a reason to upgrade the South hand
with regard to the looser counthand to counter the
downgrading argument.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[jtfanclub]

I don't know. What if North had something like....

xx
AKxxx
Ax
xxxx

Do you usually open that? Is it a 2♥ rebid or 3♣?

If you play that 3♣ here would promise at least a little extra, then I just don't see how South can make another bid.

[pclayton]

2♥ is a big underbid. Pass is a mild underbid, but might have been right. 70 N 30 S.

It's IMPs people - don't miss your games!

[oldman5757]

I would have thought about opening 4 ♥ with this hand, but agree that it is probably too good for that bid. In the auction given, 2 ♥ shows only a minimum opener, so N must find a 3♥ call with this hand. The 3 small ♠ are less of a concern after P's neg x. Then S has an easy raise to 4♥.

If N mistakenly does rebid 2 ♥, then S should consider a 2nt call, which states the values and shape nicely. The call could backfire, but I think you should stretch to invite.

[mikeh]

whereagles, on Jan 28 2008, 08:57 AM, said:

FrancesHinden, on Jan 28 2008, 11:53 AM, said:

I think this is actually quite tough.

A 4H rebid by North is a silly overbid.  3H is reasonable.

Contradiction: if 4H is silly and 3H is normal, then this isn't tough at all

In any case, 4H isn't silly. It's practical. 3H is the unlucky expert bid.

There are 3 possible calls for North.

2♥: very conservative but not silly. Opposite some negative double minimums, 2♥ may be the limit on the hand. And on many hands yielding a good play for game, partner will bid on. However, that 7th trump makes it too risky for me.

3♥: looks reasonable to me. Partner will raise with any excuse, while this does not commit me to a hopeless game opposite a minimum. This is the expert bid, not the unlucky expert bid. It is also a good descriptive call, in terms of playing strength, if partner has slam ambitions.

4♥: an overbid/misbid. The type of bid made by players who play bridge as a form of solitaire... where partners are not supposed to think.... or are deemed by North as incapable of thinking. I can understand 4♥ if we knew that our call ended the auction, but, of course, it doesn't: South is unlimited and will/should not play North for this hand for 4♥.