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Pard Superaccepts!

Poll: your move? (44 member(s) have cast votes)

your move?

  1. pass (1 votes [2.27%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.27%

  2. 4S (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  3. some sort of slamtry (36 votes [81.82%])

    Percentage of vote: 81.82%

  4. 6S (7 votes [15.91%])

    Percentage of vote: 15.91%

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#21 User is offline   gnasher 

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Posted 2008-January-28, 03:25

pclayton, on Jan 28 2008, 05:15 AM, said:

Nice idea but I think this Fantasyland.

How would we bid with: Axxxxx xx Ax KQ. Im sure we'd all make the 'obvious' 4D cue looking for a heart control before RKC.

Even if 4D is interpreted correctly, how is pard supposed to know xx and xxxx is OK but xxx isn't?

It's not just an "idea". In the UK, whilst it's true that the cue-bid interpretation is the default, I'd expect a significant fraction of good pairs to play something else.

I don't understand why you would find it difficult to evaluate xx, xxx and xxxx for slam purposes opposite known length. With a suit headed by AKQ, partner might well have initiated a cue-bidding sequence instead. Therefore xxx is bad, xxxx is a bit better, xx is the best of the three, and something containing an honour would be better than any of them.

By the way, if I held Axxxxxx xx Ax KQ on this auction (I've added a trump to make it up to 13 cards), I wouldn't be planning to ask for keycards any time soon. How would that help me to distinguish between Kxxx AJx Kxx Axx and KQJx AJx Kxx Jxx?
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2008-January-28, 03:30

I know Hamman plays his super accepts seperated by "willing to play 3N" and "not willing to play 3N" ie 1N p 2D p 2N=I can play 3N, later 3N bids are natural. In the "cannot play 3N" version, 3N bids are artificial and responder can bid a second suit, in the "can play 3N" version responder has more room so can show his second suit without using artificial 3N. He only likes to bid 2N or 3H for super accepts to eliminate giving away information/Xs of art bids.

I think kenrexford (?) also posted about the idea of seperating superaccepts this way, but I could be mistaken about that.
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Posted 2008-January-28, 16:36

4♦

Don't understand the 6♠ bidders.
This hand is not a freak, and it is not difficult to bid it more slowly.
That's impossible. No one can give more than one hundred percent. By definition that is the most anyone can give.
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Posted 2008-January-28, 23:56

Which monkey voted for pass?
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Posted 2008-January-29, 02:23

jchiu, on Jan 29 2008, 07:56 AM, said:

Which monkey voted for pass?

I must confess that the pass option was inspired by your polls :huh:
... and I can prove it with my usual, flawless logic.
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