[jtfanclub]

Scoring: MP

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2♠ P 4♠ P
-P 5♥ X P
-P P

The hand above is, of course, the 5♥ bidder.

A double of 4♠ by North would have been penalty.

[matmat]

I voted for 10. excellent, the best way to bid the hand. I was sitting E-W

[whereagles]

I rank it in the sub-zero range

[hrothgar]

I understand the desire not to sell out to 4♥ holding a stiff, however, 5♥ is too rich for my blood.

You have a very weak trump holding which means that the opponents are going to be in a good position to drop the ax. Moreover, -500 will be a disaster at MPs

[ArtK78]

At equal non-vul, by bidding you are saying that it is more likely than not that either:

1) You are making 9 tricks in hearts when they make 10 or more tricks in spades, or

2) You are making 11 tricks in hearts.

You are kidding, right?

[jdonn]

0 sounds closest among the choices offered. I actually don't think the auction is impossible, it just shows nothing like this hand.

[the hog]

You left out one choice - indescribably poor.

[pclayton]

Sick beyond sick.

[awm]

I think that if I had another heart I might bid this way. Probably a better hand for this action is something like:

♠x
♥QJT8xxx
♦xx
♣Axx

Bidding like this with a 1633 hand is too rich for me though.

I'd give it a 2: I think the auction exists, I understand the thinking, but the hand is not sufficiently offensive.

[matmat]

awm, on Jan 26 2008, 09:50 PM, said:

I'd give it a 2: I think the auction exists, I understand the thinking, but the hand is not sufficiently offensive.

you're wrong, adam.
this hand is very offensive

[cherdano]

Just because I am playing a bad method over 4S (no takeout doubles) doesn't mean I should be assuming partner has the hand he cannot show (a takeout double).

[gwnn]

whereagles, on Jan 27 2008, 02:09 AM, said:

I rank it in the sub-zero range

well said

http://mkk.mortalkombatonline.com/art/acjb...4_72dpi_q10.jpg

[mcphee]

This player simply plays by themselves. This is the sort of action that gets the cards tossed at you.

[benlessard]

awful

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

4.

The only real issue is, that you are short
in spades, it would be better, if you would
have xxx, in which case it is pretty likely,
that partner will be short in spades.
It would also help, if it would be green vs.
red, I have done dumper things, and if we
would talk about spades instead of hearts.

Be sure, that you play with a partner, who
likes to play with you, and has some (black)
humor.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[jtfanclub]

P_Marlowe, on Jan 28 2008, 07:04 AM, said:

Be sure, that you play with a partner, who likes to play with you, and has some (black) humor.

It was the last board of the match, we were doing badly, he knows those aren't the conditions where I do my best thinking. I knew it was a dumb bid the moment after I put it down on the table.

The odd part was that it worked (down 2), in spite of partner having a very ordinary hand. So then I started wondering if I'd lucked out on the cards, or if I'd blundered into what looked like an awful bid but was actually reasonable. Then I wondered if I could get a unanimous vote in the polls.

But all my wondering was for naught.

[pclayton]

jtfanclub, on Jan 28 2008, 06:46 AM, said:

P_Marlowe, on Jan 28 2008, 07:04 AM, said:

Be sure, that you play with a partner, who likes to play with you, and has some (black) humor.

It was the last board of the match, we were doing badly, he knows those aren't the conditions where I do my best thinking. I knew it was a dumb bid the moment after I put it down on the table.

The odd part was that it worked (down 2), in spite of partner having a very ordinary hand. So then I started wondering if I'd lucked out on the cards, or if I'd blundered into what looked like an awful bid but was actually reasonable. Then I wondered if I could get a unanimous vote in the polls.

But all my wondering was for naught.

Look, if you are behind by miles you can do whatever the heck you want.

I'm jaded about bids like this because I occasionally play with a maniac that seems to make a call like this about every three hands.

[cherdano]

jtfanclub, on Jan 28 2008, 08:46 AM, said:

P_Marlowe, on Jan 28 2008, 07:04 AM, said:

Be sure, that you play with a partner, who likes to play with you, and has some (black) humor.

It was the last board of the match, we were doing badly, he knows those aren't the conditions where I do my best thinking. I knew it was a dumb bid the moment after I put it down on the table.

The odd part was that it worked (down 2), in spite of partner having a very ordinary hand. So then I started wondering if I'd lucked out on the cards, or if I'd blundered into what looked like an awful bid but was actually reasonable. Then I wondered if I could get a unanimous vote in the polls.

But all my wondering was for naught.

What did partner have?

[matmat]

pclayton, on Jan 28 2008, 10:43 AM, said:

I'm jaded about bids like this because I occasionally play with a maniac that seems to make a call like this about every three hands.

sorry....


and as an aside -- what was the full layout?