[pclayton]

Scoring: IMP

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Opps silent:

1♦ - 1♠ - 2♣ - 2♦ - ?

[helene_t]

2♥, but pass is not unreasonable.

[ArtK78]

2♥. Pass is unreasonable.

Opposite as little as:

Axxx T9x xxxx Ax

you are cold for 5♦.

Opposite as little as:

AQxx Txx xxx QJx

or

KQTx xxx xxx QJx

you have a lot of play for 3NT.

[han]

Pass.

[rogerclee]

2♥ for me. I have no problem with pass.

[whereagles]

Pass for me. I have no problem with 2♥

[matmat]

pass. can i go back and bid 1nt instead of 2c?

[jdonn]

Pass. Opposite as little as KQ of spades and a doubleton diamond we are already too high.

ArtK78, on Jan 19 2008, 03:15 PM, said:

Opposite as little as:

Axxx T9x xxxx Ax

you are cold for 5♦.

I wish my partners always had so little. I hope next time my partner has four card support, two aces, the perfect doubleton, and even his T9 working that the opponents find the ruff they are over 50% to have available.

[dake50]

Assuming 2D was inv+ S-raise I go 2S =inv C-raise. One cue begets another.

[Fluffy]

2♣ was natural right? we didn't reverse because we weren't strong enough.... So then we aren't strong enough to bid 2♥.

[mike777]

pclayton, on Jan 19 2008, 01:34 PM, said:

<!-- ONEHAND begin --><table border='1'> <tr> <td> <table> <tr> <td> Dealer: </td> <td> South </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Vul: </td> <td> None </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Scoring: </td> <td> IMP </td> </tr> </table> </td> <td> <table> <tr> <th> <span class='spades'> ♠ </span> </th> <td> x </td> </tr> <tr> <th> <span class='hearts'> ♥ </span> </th> <td> QJxx </td> </tr> <tr> <th> <span class='diamonds'> ♦ </span> </th> <td> AKQxx </td> </tr> <tr> <th> <span class='clubs'> ♣ </span> </th> <td> KTx </td> </tr> </table> </td> <td>  </td> </tr> </table><!-- ONEHAND end -->

Opps silent:

1♦ - 1♠ - 2♣ - 2♦ - ?

Ugg...really tough hand for me. Partner could have 10-11 flat hcp for 2d or nothing.

I guess a max 2d with no spots could be:

Axxx...Kxx...xxx....Axx or if this is too much a tiny bit less, perhaps....


I will pass but 2h is tempting.

[the hog]

ArtK78, on Jan 20 2008, 03:15 AM, said:

2♥.  Pass is unreasonable. 

Opposite as little as:

Axxx T9x xxxx Ax

you are cold for 5♦.

Opposite as little as:

AQxx Txx xxx QJx

or

KQTx xxx xxx QJx

you have a lot of play for 3NT.

Hmm. It looks like there might be a H ruff in the offing here. It's hardly "cold."

Anyway I pass. Absolutely loath the 2C bid on a non existent suit. It really deserves a 5C bid. Whats wrong with 1NT?

[mike777]

"Whats wrong with 1NT?"

If 1nt is limited to 11-13..you(me) got a problem.......maybe even a problem if 11-14?

tough hand.

[han]

Yup, spot on Mike.

[the hog]

mike777, on Jan 20 2008, 11:46 AM, said:

"Whats wrong with 1NT?"

If 1nt is limited to 11-13..you(me) got a problem.......maybe even a problem if 11-14?

tough hand.

The problem with bidding a non existent suit here is that you may well lose the H suit. Look at this responding hand for example:
Qxxxx Axxx xx xx
After 1D 1S 2C responder will give prefence to 2D and your H fit is futsch!

Or with Qxxx Axx xx xxxx
partner will pass 2C and you play in the wonderful 4-3 C fit rather than your 5-2 D fit.

Further if you saying that opener should always bid 2H on this hand after preference to 2D, look at the number of posters who are passing.

Nope, I still think 2C sucks. If you don't like bidding 1NT, bid 2D.

[pclayton]

I held this hand.

I'm very surprised Ron is coming down so hard on 2♣. 1N is wrong on two counts and 2♦ is also flawed.

I passed 2♦. 9 or 11 tricks seemed a long way off, although this particular partner isn't the modern type that would respond with a 4 count. She actually held:

♠Axxx ♥K ♦T9xx ♣Qxxx

(Do you agree with 2♦?)

11 tricks was a breeze with this catch. Gratifying to know most of my peers pass 2♦ however.

[Rebound]

I may be crazy but I think it's worth 3♦. Partner (typically) has at least 9 cards in the minors so you have a double fit, plus the spades are headed by the A and you have shortness in the unbid suit. Or perhaps if a mini-splinter in ♥ is available.

[Codo]

I am with Ron and dislike the 2 Club bid. I had bid 1 NT or 2 Diamond depending on my agreements.

Pds hand was fine for 2 Diamond, because the singelton K sucks. It is not much better then Axxx,x,xxxx,qxxx.

[Fluffy]

The only sensible way to reach game wod be to bid 2 diamonds instead of 2 cubs and get a raise, but that raise is far from clear.