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#1 User is offline   shanbari 

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Posted 2008-January-17, 12:53

Scoring: IMP



west open 1S, and south is holding this hand.



W N E S
1S P P 2H
P 3H P 3N
P P 4C ??


what do you think south should do now ? and provide scores if you like.


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Posted 2008-January-17, 14:05

Hard to say, since the auction up to this point seems so...odd. Jxx isn't a good enough stopper for 1N, but is good enough for 3N? Don't think FP applis here. 3N bid is punishing partner.
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Posted 2008-January-17, 14:11

Double.

+500.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2008-January-17, 14:49

This isn't your normal forcing pass. This is more of a double / bid 4♥ / bid 4N / throw the problem in pard's lap.

I double. Pard can still bid 4♥.

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  Please provide a score Phil.


Double = +500
4♥ = +620 / -100 (50-50)

I just noticed we rebid 3N with Jxx in their suit. Any particular reason we did that?
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Posted 2008-January-17, 14:50

Please provide a score Phil.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2008-January-17, 15:06

Looks like a double.
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Posted 2008-January-17, 15:27

Looks like my stupid 3NT instead of pass last round might get punished here. I don't think we can make anything at all, and aren't sure we can beat 4♣ either (we rate to beat it). Pass shouldn't be forcing IMO, so that's my call.
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Posted 2008-January-17, 16:30

Hmm, I thought we were getting rescued from our stupid 3NT call.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2008-January-17, 20:27

partner is holding south hand, 3nt call is quite weird, (he is neither stupid, nor crazy, as 3nt turn out to be good contract. jxx is very bad for suit contract, he is indeed gambler.)

i insist that x is quite clear cut, however he said otherwise, that's why i like to see other people rating score between pass and x.



w n e s
1s p p 2h
p 3h p 3n
p p 4c p
p ??

when partner pass 4c, what do you bid with north hand, and rating would be much appreciated.

shan
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Posted 2008-January-17, 22:42

No, it's very stupid. Partner has a very clear cut call to make if he wishes to play 3NT: 3♠, right siding the contract, and staying out of it when parter doesn't have AQ...
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