[miguelm]

Scoring: IMP

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Not sure if this qualifies as an interesting hand, but it sure as hell is a fantastic one.

How many times you get that pattern?

I am told about this is a 0,00515 %.

How many times with those nice suits?

I guess it goes down to something like 0,000412 % lol

Now consider the auction, in which I have chosen to open with 1S, and it went:

1S......2H......4S......5H
?

Now, what are the odds of partner holding a hand to support yours with 4S...?

Should I play the lottery this next weekend...?

[helene_t]

I bid 7♠.

[Gerben42]

Agree with Helene.

Then I will bid 8♥ over that!

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Should I play the lottery this next weekend...?

No, you should not play lottery ever. It is one of the forms of gambling with the lowest expected value for your money. What's even worse is when you play lottery with one of these lottery clubs that will give you more lucrative rows. Basically when you play lottery, every € has an expected return of about €0,50. If you now learn to pick those combinations that fewer other people take your expectation value goes up to maybe €0,52. Unfortunately if you include the cost for these winning schemes, you pay €0,10 extra so you now expect to get €0,42 in return.

The only thing worse than playing lottery that I can think of are these scam tricks like 3 cups and one of them has a ball under it, but then the ball is under neither of the 3 cups.

[whereagles]

Gerben42, on Jan 17 2008, 12:30 PM, said:

1. you now learn to pick those combinations that fewer other people take your expectation value goes up to maybe €0,52.

2. Unfortunately if you include the cost for these winning schemes, you pay €0,10 extra so you now expect to get €0,42 in return.

1. Only 52%?? I thought it was more. Can you give me a link?

2. ???????????????????? explain plskthx

[TylerE]

I once had an even better version of the that hand. I'm not making this up, I swear.

Scoring: MP

(2♦) - p - p - ??

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[SchTsch]

miguelm, on Jan 17 2008, 07:16 AM, said:

Dealer: South Vul: Both Scoring: MP

♠ AJ10xxxx ♥   ♦   ♣ AKxxxx

Not sure if this qualifies as an interesting hand, but it sure as hell is a fantastic one.

How many times you get that pattern?

I am told about this is a 0,00515 %.

How many times with those nice suits?

I guess it goes down to something like 0,000412 % lol

Last Tuesday in a club game my RHO had
♠-
♥AJ10xxxx
♦-
♣AKxxxx

[miguelm]

@ TylerE and SchTsch

But hei, neither of you could start the hostilities with 1S, could you eheheheh

[gwnn]

helene_t, on Jan 17 2008, 02:20 PM, said:

I bid 7♠.

me too

[Gerben42]

I have had about 5 of these I think, and they've all been bad for me so far

[skjaeran]

Gerben42, on Jan 17 2008, 04:45 PM, said:

I have had about 5 of these I think, and they've all been bad for me so far

Then I understand why you advice people to stay out of lotteries...

[pclayton]

I've had a lot of 7-6's over the years for some reason.

I think this is a fairly obvious 7♠ call.

[inquiry]

miguelm, on Jan 17 2008, 07:16 AM, said:

Scoring: IMP

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Not sure if this qualifies as an interesting hand, but it sure as hell is a fantastic one.

How many times you get that pattern?

I am told about this is a 0,00515 %.

How many times with those nice suits?

I guess it goes down to something like 0,000412 % lol

Now consider the auction, in which I have chosen to open with 1S, and it went:

1S......2H......4S......5H
?

Now, what are the odds of partner holding a hand to support yours with 4S...?

Should I play the lottery this next weekend...?

Not sure of the odds of one of these, but if you play in a ghoulash tournment on the BBO your odds are way, way better than this.

I used bridgebrowser to pull up strong two suiters from BBO hand records to use as a test of a convetional treatement for such hands, and ran across many, many, many of such hands. Some hands identical on different days (recored was same hand in five diffferent events). This of course, raised my curiosity, I discovered these were gholash tournaments loaded by the director. Some director didn't bother changing the hands between tournaments, or at least used exactly the same hands several times.

[jdonn]

pclayton, on Jan 17 2008, 11:41 AM, said:

I've had a lot of 7-6's over the years for some reason.

I think this is a fairly obvious 7♠ call.

Yeah I think I've had four or five 7-6 or 8-5 hands. The coolest hands I've ever held were

- AKxxxxx AKT98x -
- AKQJxxxxxx - JT9

And they both went well for me

Oddly enough I've held very few big balanced hands though. Probably only about 3 or 4 times have I had more than 26 in a lot of bridge hands in my life.

[ArtK78]

jdonn, on Jan 17 2008, 11:56 AM, said:

Oddly enough I've held very few big balanced hands though. Probably only about 3 or 4 times have I had more than 26 in a lot of bridge hands in my life.

One of the first times I ever played, one of my opponents was dealt the following hand (not a goulash, hand shuffled and dealt):

AKQx
AKQ
AKQ
AKQ

We were all rank beginners. He had no clue what to do so he opened 7NT. His partner held:

xxx
xxx
xxxx
xxx

Everyone was 4333 with a different long suit, so spades split and 7NT rolled.

[han]

I've never had a 30+ count, sad.

[TylerE]

The result on my hand - I bid 6♠, making 7. Partner had random trash with 3 small clubs, and *6 diamonds to AJT*. So a double leads to like 500 or 800 vs your slam. I actually made 7 when LHO pitched a club from Qxx as I was running trump.