BBO Discussion Forums: Favorable Vulnerability Madness - BBO Discussion Forums

Jump to content

Page 1 of 1
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

Favorable Vulnerability Madness

Poll: Bid? (24 member(s) have cast votes)

Bid?

  1. 4H (4 votes [16.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 16.67%

  2. 5H (11 votes [45.83%])

    Percentage of vote: 45.83%

  3. 6H (6 votes [25.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 25.00%

  4. 7H (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  5. Something Else (3 votes [12.50%])

    Percentage of vote: 12.50%

Vote Guests cannot vote

#1 User is offline   rogerclee 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 3,214
  • Joined: 2007-December-16
  • Location:Pasadena, CA

Posted 2008-January-14, 15:36

1) IMPs, White against Red (respond in the poll to this one)
2) MPs, White against Red
3) At Favorable MPs, if the opponents reach 6S and partner doesn't double for a club lead, would you bid 7H?

Partner's preempts are juniorish.

6 T854 T8 QT8643

Partner opens 3 in first seat and it proceeds

3-3-?

I don't think this is the time to fool around with some number of notrump (5NT would be kind of funny), but feel free to post if you think that is right.
0

#2 User is offline   655321 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 2,502
  • Joined: 2007-December-22

Posted 2008-January-14, 15:47

I bid a normal 5.

4NT RKCB also takes their blackwood away, and perhaps you might even learn how many keycards for partner has, not that anyone will be better off for knowing that. :)

(Edit) Missed question 3:
No, I don't save.
The standard advice is don't save against a slam unless you expect to get out for less than game. Not sure that would happen here, but I prefer to save against a slam even more rarely anyway.
Here you have forced them to guess, perhaps 6 is their best contract, but perhaps 6 is off an Ace and partner's Qxx trump, perhaps there are 17 tricks in 7NT. Who knows, but I pass out 6.

This post has been edited by 655321: 2008-January-14, 16:03

That's impossible. No one can give more than one hundred percent. By definition that is the most anyone can give.
0

#3 User is offline   awm 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 8,666
  • Joined: 2005-February-09
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Zurich, Switzerland

Posted 2008-January-14, 15:48

Partner could have a lot of things here. If partner's a lock to have a pure hand with seven good hearts or the like, then we want to preempt like mad. But partner's described as "juniorish" and could easily have a six (or even five?) card suit at these colors, not to mention some defense on the side.

I'd suggest bidding some number of clubs, hoping to consult partner about how high to sacrifice. How about 5, planning to pull to 5 if doubled?
Adam W. Meyerson
a.k.a. Appeal Without Merit
0

#4 User is offline   Apollo81 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 3,162
  • Joined: 2006-July-10
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Maryland

Posted 2008-January-14, 15:49

I like 5. We wont go for too huge a number if doubled, and the opps might miss a slam that we're virtually sure they're making.

(3) Yes, since it is favorable MPs. We might push em to a making grand though...
0

#5 User is offline   pclayton 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 9,151
  • Joined: 2003-June-11
  • Location:Southern California

Posted 2008-January-14, 15:56

I really want to take away my LHO's ability to cuebid.

I'll try a subtle 6.
"Phil" on BBO
0

#6 User is online   P_Marlowe 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 10,908
  • Joined: 2005-March-18
  • Gender:Male

Posted 2008-January-14, 15:59

Hi,

how good are your opponents?

Besides bidding some numbers of hearts and NT,
you could also bid some numbers of clubs.

I guess, I would try 4H.

The trouble with 5H is, that this tells them that
we are both weak, in which case you may as
well bid 6H at once.

With kind regards
Marlowe
With kind regards
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
0

#7 Guest_Jlall_*

  • Group: Guests

Posted 2008-January-14, 16:01

Agree with 6, to stop them from bidding a grand if possible. Don't hate any of the options.
0

#8 User is offline   jdonn 

  • - - T98765432 AQT8
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 15,085
  • Joined: 2005-June-23
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Las Vegas, NV

Posted 2008-January-14, 16:24

I would bid 7H over 3S directly and let them guess.
Please let me know about any questions or interest or bug reports about GIB.
0

#9 User is offline   jdonn 

  • - - T98765432 AQT8
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 15,085
  • Joined: 2005-June-23
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Las Vegas, NV

Posted 2008-January-14, 16:28

Jlall, on Jan 14 2008, 05:01 PM, said:

Agree with 6, to stop them from bidding a grand if possible. Don't hate any of the options.

And I thought I was bidding in accordance with jlall: http://squeezingthedummy.blogspot.com/2006...al-theorem.html

B)
Please let me know about any questions or interest or bug reports about GIB.
0

#10 User is offline   gwnn 

  • Csaba the Hutt
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 13,027
  • Joined: 2006-June-16
  • Gender:Male
  • Interests:bye

Posted 2008-January-14, 16:31

What if pd has some minor quackie holdings that would beat 6? What if they don't get to slam after 5? 6 or 7 sounds overly confident pd has a sound preempt.
... and I can prove it with my usual, flawless logic.
      George Carlin
0

#11 User is offline   dake50 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 2,211
  • Joined: 2006-April-22

Posted 2008-January-14, 17:22

I like 6H here AND with D-AK. Tell oppts I want them to slam when I do and dare them here.
0

#12 User is offline   benlessard 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 3,465
  • Joined: 2006-January-07
  • Location:Montreal Canada
  • Interests:All games. i really mean all of them.

Posted 2008-January-16, 11:25

6H or pass :) . Either I put then on a guess by bidding 6H, (they make 7 but they dont bid it or they bid 7 and go down or they bid 6 and go down) or what i like to do against trustworthy opps is pass & let them used all the the science they want. and if they bid/stop in 6 with confidence ill sac at 7H.

The two thing i dont like is useless preempt like 4H or taking another bid after you make the opponents guess.
From Psych "I mean, Gus and I never see eye-to-eye on work stuff.
For instance, he doesn't like being used as a human shield when we're being shot at.
I happen to think it's a very noble way to meet one's maker, especially for a guy like him.
Bottom line is we never let that difference of opinion interfere with anything."
0

#13 User is offline   mr1303 

  • Admirer of Walter the Walrus
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 2,570
  • Joined: 2003-November-14
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Ulaanbaatar, Mongolia
  • Interests:Bridge, surfing, water skiing, cricket, golf. Generally being outside really.

Posted 2008-January-16, 12:33

I like pass here. Raising hearts may just warn them of their fit.
0

#14 User is offline   kfay 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 2,208
  • Joined: 2007-July-01
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Michigan
  • Interests:Science, Sports

Posted 2008-January-16, 12:49

jdonn, on Jan 14 2008, 05:24 PM, said:

I would bid 7H over 3S directly and let them guess.

I've had a major success with this sort of bid before... except that I held an outside Ace and I knew I could set 7.

I'd just settle for 6 here.

If they bid 6 I'll bid 7.
Kevin Fay
0

Page 1 of 1
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

1 User(s) are reading this topic
0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users