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#1 User is offline   Echognome 

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Posted 2008-January-14, 02:47

Scoring: IMP

(1♠) - 2NT - (3♦)* - ?

*Good hand with ♥s.
2NT by partner was the minors.

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Posted 2008-January-14, 02:53

5D seems okay.
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Posted 2008-January-14, 02:59

Easy 5D at favorable.
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Posted 2008-January-14, 03:01

I am a bidder.
True, on a bad day we could go for plenty.

I will try 5♣. Sometimes bidding the shorter suit on these hands makes it harder for them to judge the hand.
That's impossible. No one can give more than one hundred percent. By definition that is the most anyone can give.
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Posted 2008-January-14, 03:02

X, should be for the lead showing a
top honor.
If partner holds a real freak, this may
all he may need to know.

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Posted 2008-January-14, 03:04

Double - no desire to encourage CHO any more than this.

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Posted 2008-January-14, 04:31

Double is ok.
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Posted 2008-January-14, 05:08

How come some of these 'SF sectional' hands are MPs, and some are IMPs? Is this two different events?

p.s. I think double of 3D is enough here.
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Posted 2008-January-14, 05:36

5♦, wtp?
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Posted 2008-January-14, 06:34

5D, if not with this at this vulnerability, when?
It all makes perfect sense, expressed in dollars and cents.
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Posted 2008-January-14, 07:56

FrancesHinden, on Jan 14 2008, 06:08 AM, said:

How come some of these 'SF sectional' hands are MPs, and some are IMPs? Is this two different events?

p.s. I think double of 3D is enough here.

A typical sectional is two days of MP pairs, followed by an all day swiss teams.
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Posted 2008-January-14, 08:03

I'm in 5♦ camp
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Posted 2008-January-14, 08:34

If you bid less than 5♦, you know it is right for the opps to bid 4M. After 5♦, it's unclear for them what to do. So I bid that. I have two working cards and ZERO defense.
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Posted 2008-January-14, 10:23

Gerben42, on Jan 14 2008, 03:34 PM, said:

After 5♦, it's unclear for them what to do. So I bid that. I have two working cards and ZERO defense.

What concerns me is that if I bid 5♦ it may give them the choice of bidding 5M for +650 or taking +800 from 5D.

Obviously this depends a bit on partner's style of 2NT bid, but if he thinks, say

Qx
x
A10xxx
KJxxx

is good enough at favourable, then you are losing 500 in 'top' tricks plus any club ruffs or possible loss of control going, while they probably aren't going to bid a slam.

I really think 5D is too much, although obviously it could work.
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Posted 2008-January-14, 10:38

Frances, that's all nice and dandy, but the expectancy of pard's hand makes, in my opinion, 5♦ a statistical winner.

If you have mechanisms that enable you to sort out what pard's ODR is, by all means use them. But otherwise I think it's just better to play the odds and bid 5♦.
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Posted 2008-January-14, 10:44

5♦ looks normal. I could horse around with a psyche but why should I?
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Posted 2008-January-14, 13:02

5♦, this is why vulnerability exists.
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Posted 2008-January-14, 21:08

FrancesHinden, on Jan 14 2008, 11:08 AM, said:

How come some of these 'SF sectional' hands are MPs, and some are IMPs? Is this two different events?

p.s. I think double of 3D is enough here.

Yes. It is common in America to have sectionals (weekend congresses for those across the pond) that feature a two-session pair game on Saturday and a strati-flighted swiss team game on Sunday scored by victory points. The victory point scale depends on the part of the country, and I heard that they use the 30-point scale to combat pro teams where the client only plays half in the midwest - think Wales or north of Manchester.
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Posted 2008-January-14, 21:42

Frances, you should come to the North American nationals sometime!
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2008-January-17, 12:48

Jlall, on Jan 14 2008, 11:02 AM, said:

5♦, this is why vulnerability exists.

Exactly my thoughts!

I bid 5♦ and opener instantly bid 5♥, and then responder bid 5♠. After some pauses for thought, they ended the bidding.

The deal was something like this:




Partner cashed a top diamond and switched to a club. When hearts weren't guessed they were down one.
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