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#1 User is offline   hutchau 

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Posted 2008-January-10, 14:47

playing 2/1, if the auction begins say
1♥ - 1♠ - 2♣ what strength is shown with the 2♣ bid
[a] a game force with clubs
[b] a one round force with clubs
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Posted 2008-January-10, 14:47

B,
Please let me know about any questions or interest or bug reports about GIB.
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Posted 2008-January-10, 14:55

I'm decidedly not an expert (sorry), but I know some people who consider this passable, in the event that responder has a point-shy hand with heart shortage.

Otherwise, yeah, B.

Edit: Oh! Sorry. I thought he meant the auction....

1♥ P 1♠ P
2♣

I'll shut up now.
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Posted 2008-January-10, 15:01

It's a one round force, unless for some strange reason you choose to play a forcing NT in this sequence.

My pard today in the ACBL Speedball made this call with a 4 count. I wasn't a happy camper.
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Posted 2008-January-10, 15:31

One round force.
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Posted 2008-January-10, 15:43

Forcing unless non-forcing.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2008-January-10, 15:45

one round force
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Posted 2008-January-10, 17:51

One-round force is usual.

Strong minority play non-forcing.

I don't know of anyone who plays this as GF.
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Posted 2008-January-10, 19:01

here's a thread I created a while back which got a few responses:

http://forums.bridge...showtopic=17085
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Posted 2008-January-10, 19:04

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  Posted 2008-January-10, 20:32

B. 10+ with clubs. Not game-forcing as of this point in the auction, but does demand one bid from pard.

Similarly, I saw an auction today (am out with head cold) when the North bidder with AKx Kxx AT9x Kxx heard her partner open 1H, receive a 1S overcall from her RHO, and then after her 2D and 2H rebid from pard, rebid 3H to get dropped and miss game for a nine imp loss. Just because you made a forcing call, doesn't mean you're in a G/F.
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