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Posted 2008-January-10, 02:49

Tournement pair
not vulnerable

<span style='font-family:Geneva'>est bid 1 ♣ and after sud bid?</span>


Sud hand
♠ Q 8 7 3 ♥ A ♦ A 10 2 ♣ A K 10 4 3

Sorry for my english is the first time i use this forum and no pratic.
Please help me for bid this hand i think bid 1nt and you?
TY :D

Ty at all for help me
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Posted 2008-January-10, 02:54

I too bid 1NT.

I don't have a close second choice.
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Posted 2008-January-10, 03:05

My preference is for a 2♣ overcall.

I don't hate 1NT, but I see no need for a distorted 1NT overcall when we have a decent alternative.
2♣ tells partner we have a good hand with a club suit. We can still get to 3NT if it is right, and we miss out on the various unpleasantnesses that may befall us when we overcall 1NT with a singleton in the unbid major.
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Posted 2008-January-10, 03:08

655321, on Jan 10 2008, 04:05 AM, said:

My preference is for a 2♣ overcall.

I don't hate 1NT, but I see no need for a distorted 1NT overcall when we have a decent alternative.
2♣ tells partner we have a good hand with a club suit. We can still get to 3NT if it is right, and we miss out on the various unpleasantnesses that may befall us when we overcall 1NT with a singleton in the unbid major.

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Posted 2008-January-10, 03:14

The problem with 1NT is that p will take you out to 2♥ with a 5-card. 2♣ could be a silly contract as well but I think that's slightly less likely.

I would bid 1NT if p would not expect 17 HCPs for a suit overcall. Otherwise 2♣.

Edit: sorry, I thought East opened 1♠. Over a 1♣ opening, the choice is between 1NT and pass. I think I'll pass.
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Posted 2008-January-10, 03:32

I like pass.

Apparently RHO has opened 1♣, so I cannot bid clubs naturally.

Opponents are unlikely to play in 1♣, and if they do we may do okay by defeating it.

If I pass, partner may bid, or I may get the chance to bid clubs or double hearts later in the bidding.

1NT is okay on values, but too often partner goes to ♥ on a five-card suit.
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Posted 2008-January-10, 03:39

I do not like 1NT. I rather pass. When partner sees my strong second action, he should understand I have clubs.
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Posted 2008-January-10, 03:42

awm, on Jan 10 2008, 04:32 AM, said:

I like pass.

Apparently RHO has opened 1♣, so I cannot bid clubs naturally.


Ah, I misread the original post - I thought East opened 1♠.

Well then: Over a 1♣ opening, Pass, 1NT and 1♠ all come into consideration, but my vote is for Pass.

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Posted 2008-January-10, 04:42

I play 2 Club as natural here, so I am allow to bid it.

If I don´t play raptor, 1 NT is possible, yes you have a singelton in a major, but if pd transfers you into Heart, you have no less support then with xx.

So I would choose this bid.

But I play raptor, so I cannot bid 1 NT. Okay, so 2 Club is it.
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Posted 2008-January-10, 04:50

ty at all for your help.....I'm new user about forum :)
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Posted 2008-January-10, 08:34

awm, on Jan 10 2008, 04:32 AM, said:

I like pass.

Apparently RHO has opened 1♣, so I cannot bid clubs naturally.


We can't really tell since the OP used the spade symbol twice.
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Posted 2008-January-10, 10:10

I'll pass over 1♣. I can handle most continuations comfortably.
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Posted 2008-January-10, 10:23

Apollo81, on Jan 10 2008, 04:34 PM, said:

awm, on Jan 10 2008, 04:32 AM, said:

I like pass.

Apparently RHO has opened 1♣, so I cannot bid clubs naturally.


We can't really tell since the OP used the spade symbol twice.

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