[firmit]

You hold:
♠ K4
♥ AQJ63
♦ AK43
♣ AJ

Bidding goes:
2♣ - 2NT - responder has 7-10 balanced. How do you continue?

Option 1 - bid naturally
3♥ - 3♠! = slam invite 3c support, not necessarily ♠-cue

Option 2 - conventional
3♣ -
- 3♦ 5c unknown minor -- 3♥ asks
- 3♥ 3-2-4-4
- 3♠ 2-3-4-4
- 3NT 3-3-3-4/3-3-4-3

I think I chose the wrong line - I did not like my option after:
2♣-2NT-3♣-3♠

How do I invite with hearts now? I feel this is one of them situation where one really needs to plan ahead and expect the "worst type of answer" from partner - in respect to rebid-options. Should I bid hearts and rather make a quantitative bid if partner denies heart support?
2♣-2NT-3♥-3NT-4NT

Is 4 of a minor cue or natural after 3NT?

Need some help here.... when to know which option to choose?

[Codo]

1. I think that your hand is a good advertisment for never let the weak hand bid NT. In each suit besides diamonds you want the lead come into your hand.
Just imagine his hand to be xxx,Kx,Qxxx,KQxx. Everybody makes 6 NT and you fail to make three.
2. IF we have a Heart fit, I have problems after the 3 Club inquiry, this works just well, if we want to find a minor slam. And if we have no Heart fit, I just told the defenders the exact shape of declarer. No good idea. So I had cjhoosen 3 Heart and pray.
3. If you stick to your methods, play 4 Spade after 3 Spade as SI with hearts. This is the only suit, where you surely have no fit.
4. In the sequence you asked for, 4 m must be natural, there is no other way to show a two suiter and you can still have one, can´t you?

But I would start at point one and redesign the system in a way that pd does not bid 2 NT. This hand is much easier after 2 Club 2 any 2 NT.. puppet stayman etc...
And if your hand is limited (to 22/23) pd is much better placed to decide whether to play slam or not then you are opposite his wide range.

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

as always it matters, how much work / effort you
want to invest, in an area, which does come up
how often?

I would go for option 1, and in this sequence 3S over
3H shows a 4 card spade suit, afterall opener may
be 5-4 in the mayors.
After a 2C opener and a 2NT response the 5 level has
to be safe ...
The alternavtive being, go for your NT structure, i.e.
3C Stayman, 3D, 3H Transfer and so on.

The advantage of the above mentioned approaches is,
the add memory load is low, you may wrong side the
contracts quite often, but your main aim should be to reach
the correct contract first, and playing the contract from
the right side should com 2nd.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[mike777]

firmit, on Jan 8 2008, 04:03 AM, said:

You hold:
♠ K4
♥ AQJ63
♦ AK43
♣ AJ

Bidding goes:
2♣ - 2NT - responder has 7-10 balanced. How do you continue?

Option 1 - bid naturally
3♥ - 3♠! = slam invite 3c support, not necessarily ♠-cue

Option 2 - conventional
3♣ -
- 3♦ 5c unknown minor -- 3♥ asks
- 3♥ 3-2-4-4
- 3♠ 2-3-4-4
- 3NT 3-3-3-4/3-3-4-3

I think I chose the wrong line - I did not like my option after:
2♣-2NT-3♣-3♠

How do I invite with hearts now? I feel this is one of them situation where one really needs to plan ahead and expect the "worst type of answer" from partner - in respect to rebid-options. Should I bid hearts and rather make a quantitative bid if partner denies heart support?
2♣-2NT-3♥-3NT-4NT

Is 4 of a minor cue or natural after 3NT?

Need some help here.... when to know which option to choose?

Another zillion hand
Open 2c or one of major?

[jdonn]

I think this is easy with the given system, option 1 then bid 4♥ over 3♠. You are the minimum of 22 with the minimum of five hearts. Partner will never think you couldn't have made a cuebid, he will just know you are minimum for slam, and it is left up to him.

If partner bids 3NT over 3♥ I think you should pass, at best you are 32 with no fit for your long suit, and stranger things have happened than going down in 4NT if partner is minimum and the cards aren't friendly.

[pclayton]

We play 2♠ as 8-10 balanced. This keeps the NT rightsided and gives you one more extra step. 2N through 3♥ are all positives and transfers.

[Echognome]

pclayton, on Jan 8 2008, 08:14 AM, said:

We play 2♠ as 8-10 balanced. This keeps the NT rightsided and gives you one more extra step. 2N through 3♥ are all positives and transfers.

Over 2♠ you can bid 2NT which asks responder for a 4 card major or a 5 card minor and those are transferred to.