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Posted 2008-January-06, 16:40
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Posted 2008-January-06, 16:59
I could see either pass or 4NT here. Slam seems far off. Ill bid 4NT... I assume this is pick a minor.
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Posted 2008-January-06, 17:01
4♠ and 4NT look like good alternatives, but I will bid a simple 3NT.
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Posted 2008-January-06, 17:27
Most likely I will end up in 6 of a minor.
Not going to bid 7 unless we can count 13 or 14 tricks.
Certainly won't go for our own throat by passing or bidding 3NT.
Well, if we don't have any agreements about 4♠ or 4NT, I will just bid 4NT and raise 5m to 6.
Not going to bid 7 unless we can count 13 or 14 tricks.
Certainly won't go for our own throat by passing or bidding 3NT.
Well, if we don't have any agreements about 4♠ or 4NT, I will just bid 4NT and raise 5m to 6.
That's impossible. No one can give more than one hundred percent. By definition that is the most anyone can give.
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Posted 2008-January-06, 19:27
I think right now we have to choose five or six clubs.
OK six, sorry partner.
OK six, sorry partner.
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Posted 2008-January-06, 21:09
OK partner balanced so 6♣.... that doesn't sound like a good idea to me personally. If I'm trying to see if we can play 6m then I'll start with 4♠ but I don't think that 4NT really precludes that contract anyways.
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Posted 2008-January-06, 22:09
WTH partner balanced and people are bidding SLAM? Does the fact that the hand is being given as a problem influence people that much? This is one of the most normal 3NT bids I ever saw. Sometimes it goes down, sometimes slam makes in a minor, and none of the time does that matter since our bid is obvious.
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Posted 2008-January-06, 22:42
Though I am not going to look for slam, I do believe that with Ax of S a minor suit game is safer than 3NT. Hence I am bidding 4NT, choose the best minor.
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Posted 2008-January-07, 04:07
I will play in 5m unless partner shows extras. I think this is likely to be a better spot that 3NT.
I will start with 4S, which should be a two-suiter with a spade control. I will bid 5C over partner's 4NT, and pass 5C or 5D.
I will start with 4S, which should be a two-suiter with a spade control. I will bid 5C over partner's 4NT, and pass 5C or 5D.
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Posted 2008-January-07, 05:48
I prefer 4♠ to 4NT because I got some interesting extras. I think 4NT should show something like an ace less and a diamond more.
HOWEVER... I'm not sure pard will understand 4♠ as a 2-suiter. For instance, if pard bids 4NT now, what will I understand from it?? Without agreements, 4♠ is gonna be a mess and I don't want to complicate a nice social bridge evening, so I'll just bid 4NT which my WC (water-closet??) pard should understand.
HOWEVER... I'm not sure pard will understand 4♠ as a 2-suiter. For instance, if pard bids 4NT now, what will I understand from it?? Without agreements, 4♠ is gonna be a mess and I don't want to complicate a nice social bridge evening, so I'll just bid 4NT which my WC (water-closet??) pard should understand.
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Posted 2008-January-07, 12:27
FrancesHinden, on Jan 7 2008, 05:07 AM, said:
I will play in 5m unless partner shows extras. I think this is likely to be a better spot that 3NT.
I will start with 4S, which should be a two-suiter with a spade control. I will bid 5C over partner's 4NT, and pass 5C or 5D.
I will start with 4S, which should be a two-suiter with a spade control. I will bid 5C over partner's 4NT, and pass 5C or 5D.
ditto
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Posted 2008-January-07, 12:54
FrancesHinden, on Jan 7 2008, 05:07 AM, said:
I will play in 5m unless partner shows extras. I think this is likely to be a better spot that 3NT.
I will start with 4S, which should be a two-suiter with a spade control. I will bid 5C over partner's 4NT, and pass 5C or 5D.
I will start with 4S, which should be a two-suiter with a spade control. I will bid 5C over partner's 4NT, and pass 5C or 5D.
Very nice bidding plan.
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Posted 2008-January-07, 13:42
FrancesHinden, on Jan 7 2008, 02:07 AM, said:
I will play in 5m unless partner shows extras. I think this is likely to be a better spot that 3NT.
I will start with 4S, which should be a two-suiter with a spade control. I will bid 5C over partner's 4NT, and pass 5C or 5D.
I will start with 4S, which should be a two-suiter with a spade control. I will bid 5C over partner's 4NT, and pass 5C or 5D.
Yes, sensible.
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Posted 2008-January-07, 17:06
All very sensible. But how do we expect partner to show extra values missing three or four Aces.
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Posted 2008-January-07, 19:24
Josh haven't I told you you bid 3N with Ax way too often? 
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Posted 2008-January-08, 01:14
Jlall, on Jan 7 2008, 08:24 PM, said:
Josh haven't I told you you bid 3N with Ax way too often?
I don't think so, put it on your to do list.
I still find forcing to slam unbelievable.
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Posted 2008-January-08, 06:42
Minor suit slams I bid on every excuse 
Here 6C/D rate to have some sort of play.
I don't think partner will have an easy time evaluating what exactly he can like/dislike by bidding 4S. By the way, shouldn't this imply a Heart fit...?
Anyway, shoot me if you must but I am bidding 5NT.
Here 6C/D rate to have some sort of play.I don't think partner will have an easy time evaluating what exactly he can like/dislike by bidding 4S. By the way, shouldn't this imply a Heart fit...?
Anyway, shoot me if you must but I am bidding 5NT.
It all makes perfect sense, expressed in dollars and cents.
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Posted 2008-January-08, 09:21
miguelm, on Jan 8 2008, 07:42 AM, said:
Anyway, shoot me if you must but I am bidding 5NT.
And when your partner bids 7♥ because he has two of the top three honors....
Even if you want to be in slam, why not go through 4♠? Even I can understand that bid.
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Posted 2008-January-08, 09:30
jtfanclub, on Jan 8 2008, 09:21 AM, said:
miguelm, on Jan 8 2008, 07:42 AM, said:
Anyway, shoot me if you must but I am bidding 5NT.
And when your partner bids 7♥ because he has two of the top three honors....
Does anyone still play 5N here as GSF in hearts?? This seems the most obvious pick-a-slam-5N ever.
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Posted 2008-January-08, 09:52
Right
It all makes perfect sense, expressed in dollars and cents.
RHO, an advanced but not expert player, with a big lead in a social teamgame opens 3♠. You and LHO pass and your WC partner reopens with double. Whose throat are you hoping to go for, and by what means?