[cnszsun]

Scoring: IMP

(ps)-ps-(2♥)-2♠
(4♥)-?

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[jchiu]

5♥. Although I'm never a fan of three-suiters for offense, I see many 'perfect' minimum overcalls opposite which slam is quite good. For instance,
♠ AKxxxx ♥ xxx ♦ Kx ♣ Kx. Partner should have some idea that my heart void has increased the offensive potential of this hand substantially.

[han]

Some people are going to laugh at me for saying this but I have the agreement that 5C shows spade support (only because we are a passed hand). With this agreement I think that 5C is superior to 5H, but mabe both are too much. Close call.

[ArtK78]

Hannie, on Dec 31 2007, 11:46 PM, said:

Some people are going to laugh at me for saying this but I have the agreement that 5C shows spade support (only because we are a passed hand). With this agreement I think that 5C is superior to 5H, but mabe both are too much. Close call.

Of course 5♣ shows spade support. How could a passed hand have a club suit good enough to introduce at the 5 level?

[the hog]

5C, fit showing.

[Walddk]

Hannie, on Jan 1 2008, 06:46 AM, said:

Some people are going to laugh at me for saying this but I have the agreement that 5C shows spade support (only because we are a passed hand).

No reason to laugh at you. Isn't there consensus among expert players? I would also (fit)bid 5♣, intending to follow up with 5♥ over 5♦. That shows the hand very well in my opinion.

Roland

[P_Marlowe]

4S.

Ok, we may miss 6S, but we
also may go down in 5S.
Try to go plus.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[mcphee]

I see 5C as a no brainer advance, when partner cue bids D I hope I can cue bid H and await the hopefull C cue in return. That gives me a shot to reach 7, 5H blows that opportunity.

[kenrexford]

Hannie, on Dec 31 2007, 11:46 PM, said:

Some people are going to laugh at me for saying this but I have the agreement that 5C shows spade support (only because we are a passed hand). With this agreement I think that 5C is superior to 5H, but mabe both are too much. Close call.

You are right. It is funny that you felt trepidation in announcing the obviously right answer.

[jdonn]

I would bid 5♥ even if 5♣ does show spade support. I don't see how 5♣ helps him much, and a singleton club is not a bad thing if partner has good diamonds.

[Winstonm]

Is it really that clear we are safe at the 5-level? Would anyone complain if partner overcalled 2S on: AKxxx, Qx AJx, xxx?

I'm following my own advice, here, and that is game before slam. Although I'd like to bid more, the opponents have robbed me of the room I need to bid anything other than:

4S

[Codo]

Winstonm, on Jan 2 2008, 03:10 AM, said:

Is it really that clear we are safe at the 5-level? Would anyone complain if partner overcalled 2S on: AKxxx, Qx AJx, xxx?

I'm following my own advice, here, and that is game before slam. Although I'd like to bid more, the opponents have robbed me of the room I need to bid anything other than:

4S

In your example, pd overcalled on virtually 10 HCps with a passed partner and you still have a play in 5 Spade. So 4 Spade is a clear underbid.

I join Roland in 5 Club followed by 5 Heart if possible. This shows my hand.

[neilkaz]

I'll also take a shot for slam here. 5♣ followed by 5♥

[Winstonm]

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In your example, pd overcalled on virtually 10 HCps with a passed partner and you still have a play in 5 Spade. So 4 Spade is a clear underbid.

Huh? AKxxx, AJx=10 points?

Besides, when contemplating slam, the 5-level should be a virtual certainty, not simply have "a play".

Give partner a much better hand such as AKxxx, Axx, xx, Kxx and the 5-level is still not safe, even with the given heart lead.

Although it is a close call, I don't think we have enough hand to compel partner to have more than a minimum overcall - and yes, we may miss slam, which is one of the reasons opponents bid this way - another reason is to push us into unmakeable contracts. I'm pretty certain we have a play for 4S - above that, it is simply guesswork.

[bhall]

5♣

Either partner overcalled with length in ♥ (and thus has a relatively sound hand) or the opponents will most likely continue bidding them. I would rather that they sacrifice at maximum level; I don't want to walk it up to 5♠, which is the likely result of bidding 4♠ on this round.

[whereagles]

4♠ for me. The 5 level seems a bit too optimistic for my likes.