[Edmunte1]

Scoring: IMP

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Your choice?

[paulg]

4♥ - too much at this vul for 3♥. Second choice would be 1♥.

[hrothgar]

Edmunte1, on Dec 17 2007, 05:53 PM, said:

Scoring: IMP

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Your choice?

Mark me down for 3♥, though I wish that I had one less King

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

first let me state, what I wont do:

I wont open 1H.
I wont open 3H.
I wont use other, ...

What is left?
Pass or 4H.

I think both options are valid, but I most
likely would go with 4H, at least partner
knows, that a 4H preempt can sometimes
have lots of outside values.

And no, this is not an everyday preempt.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[ArtK78]

3♥, without a second thought.

Why would I consider opening a 1 bid with an aceless hand with less than opening values?

I am sure that there are some out there who don't think this hand is good enough for an opening 3 bid vulnerable (but not on this Forum).

[MickyB]

3♥ looks normal to me

[mike777]

Edmunte1, on Dec 17 2007, 09:53 AM, said:

Dealer: South Vul: Both Scoring: IMP

♠ K92 ♥ QJ108762 ♦ 2 ♣ K5

Your choice?

1H

My choice.

I am not going to preempt at the 3 level with 2 side kings, not close.

[gwnn]

MickyB, on Dec 17 2007, 05:16 PM, said:

3♥ looks normal to me

yea

[Raivis]

Originally we play multy.

With this hand 2♦ (weak in one major or strong (19-22) NT distribution).

In SAYC system - 2♥. Count exactly 6 tricks in heart game.
Both red, down too, exactly for 2♥.

[han]

I lack the imagination for anything but 3H.

[Apollo81]

3♥. The only other halfway reasonable option is 4♥.

[pclayton]

1♥ - I won't ever preempt with two outside cards.

[awm]

3♥, but not happy about it.

Second choice pass.

I won't ever open 1♥ with so few points and so little defense. I do expect partner to game force with many 13-counts with short hearts after all (AQJx x KQJxx xxx is a totally normal game force for example, but also an easy pass of a 3♥ open).

[Fluffy]

nice you put 3♥, because that is exactly what I though when I saw the hand, faviourable might change things, but at equeal 3♥ is plain obvious.

[jdonn]

I'm plenty happy to open 3♥ even though I also would with a king less. Mix it up a little, if you always have the same hand for a preempt you are very easy to play against. True it can sometimes make partner guess, and having such a good holding in the other major could possibly miss a contract there, but when you preempt you are taking a shot to begin with that it's not your hand so back up what you think.

I don't know which of 1♥ or 4♥ is more disgusting. 4♥ is getting way too much support, I probably give that a 1/10 and 1♥ a 2/10.

[cherdano]

I wouldn't use the word disgusting, but I agree with Josh-now-with-a-signature-donn.

[han]

jdonn, on Dec 17 2007, 02:41 PM, said:

I don't know which of 1♥ or 4♥ is more disgusting. 4♥ is getting way too much support, I probably give that a 1/10 and 1♥ a 2/10.

The proper way to say it:

Quote

IMO

3♥ = 10
1♥ = 2
4♥ = 1

[Apollo81]

The thing that 4♥ has going for it which makes it higher rated than pass or 1♥ IMO is that you might catch a lucky dummy where 4♥ is cold and there is no way to reach it, such as:

AQJx
K
xxxxx
Qxx


It is sort of silly to argue about which call is a very distant 2nd best.

[Halo]

4H

I don't find that 3H preempts anyone when it matters.

[P_Marlowe]

jdonn, on Dec 17 2007, 02:41 PM, said:

I'm plenty happy to open 3♥ even though I also would with a king less. Mix it up a little, if you always have the same hand for a preempt you are very easy to play against. True it can sometimes make partner guess, and having such a good holding in the other major could possibly miss a contract there, but when you preempt you are taking a shot to begin with that it's not your hand so back up what you think.
<snip>

If you have a more variable style, than you are harder
to play against, but also harder to partner.

Opening with a preempt is also a constructie move, not
only a destructive move.

With kind regards
Marlowe