[sceptic]

Scoring: IMP

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West North East South

 -     Pass  2♠    Dbl
 4♠    Pass  Pass  4NT
 Pass  5♦    Pass  5♥
 5♠    5NT   Pass  6♣
 Pass  Pass  6♠    Dbl
 Pass  Pass  Pass  



Hi all

I am curious after the 2 spade weak bid


1/. what is x

2/. is a direct 4NT showing both minors

3/. what would 3 spades be

4/. after the the person bid x is the 4NT now two places to play and is the correct response 5 clubs not 5 diamonds

[skjaeran]

1. Global standard is that x=t/o. (I've played double as strong balanced and 2NT as t/o).

2. Depends. If you play leaping Michaels (lM) (4m=♥+m) 4NT normally would show both minors. But that againd depends on whether 4m would be forcing or not. Without lM 4NT should initially be treated as both minors, but overcaller will be able to correct a 5♣ preference to 5♦ showing the red suits.

3. Playing leaping Michaels 3♠ would be a stopper ask. Showing a solid suit and side stoppers wanting to play 3NT or a strong 1-suiter too strong for a direct overcall and not suited for a t/o double. Without lM 3♠ normally shows a 2-suiter with ♥ and a minor.

4. Yes.

[helene_t]

1) t/o. In this case (we had not discussed leaping michaels) any hand with more than one place to play and too strong for an overcall.
2) Yes, 4N shows the minors. Maybe some other hands with 5-level safety could be included (such as this hand) but I would not assume that without discussion.
3) Agree with Harald.
4) Yes, I (temporally) lost my head when I bid 5♦.

[Fluffy]

In Spain direct ceubid is minors, not stopper ask.

[whereagles]

Fluffy, on Nov 14 2007, 09:57 AM, said:

In Spain direct ceubid is minors, not stopper ask.

minors > stopper