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#1 User is offline   Echognome 

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Posted 2007-November-06, 01:13

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1♣ - (1♠) - Dbl - (Pass)
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1. Do you agree with 1♣? or would you prefer 1NT?

2. What's your call now?
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Posted 2007-November-06, 01:15

1) yes 100% easy
2) 3H easy would not give it a second thought.
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Posted 2007-November-06, 01:46

1C ok. why lie?

i like 3H more than 2H, so 3 it is.
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Posted 2007-November-06, 01:46

1♣ / 3♥.
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Posted 2007-November-06, 09:16

Can't see much wrong with 1♣. And despite your hand worse than your HCP might suggest, you still have 16 and a bit of shape. So 3♥ it is.
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Posted 2007-November-06, 09:33

1♣ and 3♥ for me as well.
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Posted 2007-November-06, 10:21

pclayton, on Nov 6 2007, 08:46 AM, said:

1♣ / 3♥.

Same
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Posted 2007-November-06, 10:42

I don't mind 1NT. Now 3♥ is normal.
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Posted 2007-November-06, 10:53

1C for sure. 3H now for sure.
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Posted 2007-November-06, 12:23

So the spade overcall on your left and your stiff honor doesn't make anyone downgrade to only 2♥?

Guess I'm on an island again on this one.
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Posted 2007-November-06, 12:27

Echognome, on Nov 6 2007, 01:23 PM, said:

So the spade overcall on your left and your stiff honor doesn't make anyone downgrade to only 2♥? 

Guess I'm on an island again on this one.

Downgrade, what is downgrade?

Is that some bridge term we should never use?
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Posted 2007-November-06, 12:33

Echognome, on Nov 6 2007, 01:23 PM, said:

So the spade overcall on your left and your stiff honor doesn't make anyone downgrade to only 2♥?

Sorry nope :) I don't want to make the same bid on a bad 16 with a singleton as on a random balanced 12.
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Posted 2007-November-06, 13:01

jdonn, on Nov 6 2007, 01:33 PM, said:

Echognome, on Nov 6 2007, 01:23 PM, said:

So the spade overcall on your left and your stiff honor doesn't make anyone downgrade to only 2♥?

Sorry nope :) I don't want to make the same bid on a bad 16 with a singleton as on a random balanced 12.

Agreed..1♣/3♥ and WTP ?
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Posted 2007-November-06, 13:54

Certainly this is a clear 3♥ call if LHO didn't make the call.

Since LHO overcalled, how much worse is our hand as a result? Somewhat, but I wouldn't drag it into the 2♥ realm.
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Posted 2007-November-06, 14:04

Echognome, on Nov 6 2007, 01:23 PM, said:

So the spade overcall on your left and your stiff honor doesn't make anyone downgrade to only 2♥? 

Guess I'm on an island again on this one.

I have some sympathy for 2♥. If I want partner to double 1♠ with xx Axxx Kxxx xxx, then I shouldn't hang him out to dry with doubtful values and poor intermediates. And I would expect him to bid game over 3♥ holding xx AJxx xxxx Kxx, which is maybe 20% to make on this auction.

On the other hand, partner may be reluctant to make a try for game over 2♥ with a lot of 10 HCP hands where game is a good bet. It depends on how aggressively he expects you to raise. Clearly, the majority here are in the aggressive category.

All that being said, I would (over)bid 3♥ and apologize when things fell apart.
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Posted 2007-November-07, 00:55

1♣ is ok.
I bid 2♥ in the second round.
Spade values must be downgraded.
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Posted 2007-November-07, 04:46

Obvious 1♣.
3♥ seems clear too.
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Posted 2007-November-08, 19:28

1) Yes i agree with 1♣

2) yes you bid 3♥ provided you and your pd have agreed that x of 1♠ shows 4+♥ eeven if you downgrade Queen ♠ you upgrade coz u hv singleton so its the same thing.
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