What is 5N?
#1
Posted 2007-November-05, 22:59
1♥ - (3♠) - 5N (!)
How would you take 5N?
#2 Guest_Jlall_*
Posted 2007-November-05, 23:17
#3
Posted 2007-November-06, 00:04
#4
Posted 2007-November-06, 01:39
#5
Posted 2007-November-06, 01:49
pclayton, on Nov 6 2007, 02:39 AM, said:
Hands that would bid GSF here are going to be verrrry shapely, I would truly fear being bombarded in competition.
Also partner might interfere. 4♠ 5♠ 6♥ p back to us, are we sure he has the honors we need or maybe he just has a lot of shape too.
#6
Posted 2007-November-06, 02:28
Grand Slam force except with Phil in which case I'd bid 6 of my best minor and then correct 6 Hearts to 7 if I had 2.
#8
Posted 2007-November-06, 10:53
"It can't be GSF because pard could have used RKCB if he wanted to know about trumps. So it must be some pick-a-slam."
or
"It can't be pick-a-slam because pard could have bid 4♦ followed by 6♣ if he wanted me to pick-a-slam."
or
"It can be GSF with a hand that, for some reason, does not want to know about keycards. That must be a hand with GS strength and a void, probably NOT in spades because with that hand pard could have just bid 5♠ voidwood followed by a trump queen ask."
Conclusion 1: pard has something like
Axx
Axxx
AKQxxx
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Conclusion 2: if you think all this is far-fetched, you're right. This sort of undiscussed bid is better off not being made at table. The chance for a mix-up doesn't compensate eventual gains.
#9
Posted 2007-November-06, 16:30
#10
Posted 2007-November-06, 16:33
Fluffy, on Nov 6 2007, 02:30 PM, said:
More than 1 major - 5N?
#11
Posted 2007-November-06, 16:34
#12
Posted 2007-November-06, 17:35
I cannot imagine another interpretation of 5NT. If it was intended as something other than a grand slam force, it was asking for a disaster.
#13
Posted 2007-November-06, 17:55
I suppose I could bid 4♣ (like the other table). Adam had a death hand of ♠Kxx ♥KJ9xx ♦AQx ♣xx, yet 6♦ has chances. I really don't know what he does over 4♣. Nothing works here - KJTx of clubs sat over my hand and the hand was generally foul.
Adam took it as GSF and we played 6♥. He played it well for -300, which pushed with the other table, when they played 6♣.
If we had the agreement that this was PAS, I think he would opt for 6♦.
I think we rough up 3♠ pretty good. Its our best spot as it turns out.
#14
Posted 2007-November-06, 18:52
#15
Posted 2007-November-06, 22:39
I haven't discussed this auction but I think it should be GSF.
- hrothgar
#16
Posted 2007-November-07, 12:42
Harald
#17
Posted 2007-November-08, 05:01
skaeran, on Nov 7 2007, 07:42 PM, said:
Exactly !
#18
Posted 2007-November-08, 09:48
pclayton, on Nov 6 2007, 10:33 PM, said:
Fluffy, on Nov 6 2007, 02:30 PM, said:
More than 1 major - 5N?
I normally splinter when non competitive, but maybe for others
#19
Posted 2007-November-08, 10:18
pclayton, on Nov 6 2007, 08:39 AM, said:
Because all it wants to know is partner's trump honours. Why slow the auction down when you know what you want?
I agree this is obviously GSF, because nothing else really makes sense.
(on the actual hand I would bid 4C, opener would bid 4NT and as responder I'd have to guess. Looks like I would be going off in 4NT although double dummy it sounds as if there is some form of strip squeeze assuming a spade lead)

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